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Votes From the Dead to Count in Election (N C)
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 31, 2004 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:51:56 PM PST by Dubya

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1 posted on 10/31/2004 12:51:58 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Dubya

Why worry about a day or two difference when here in Illinois (particularly Chicago) the dead are always part of the base. As they say here; " Just because a person is deceased, that should not deny them the right to vote."


2 posted on 10/31/2004 12:57:50 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Dubya
In what would be her last conscious act, 90-year-old Trixie Porter gripped a pen in her weak, trembling hand, checked the candidates of her choice and scrawled a squiggled signature on her absentee ballot.

Yes, that one should count! But if they've been dead for years, well lets just use our own common sense. If you are a Democrat please contact someone else not of same persuasion to gain this common sense.



Patriot Paradox

3 posted on 10/31/2004 12:58:21 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (Aloha means hello and goodbye Senator Kerry.)
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To: Dubya

Hell, dead Democrats have their votes counted all the time.


4 posted on 10/31/2004 12:58:27 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Dubya
In what would be her last conscious act, 90-year-old Trixie Porter gripped a pen in her weak, trembling hand, checked the candidates of her choice and scrawled a squiggled signature on her absentee ballot.

Yes, that one should count! But if they've been dead for years, well lets just use our own common sense. If you are a Democrat please contact someone else not of same persuasion to gain this common sense.



Patriot Paradox

5 posted on 10/31/2004 1:00:03 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000 (Aloha means hello and goodbye Senator Kerry.)
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To: Dubya

If these are legal absentee ballots, they should count. The election monitors should spend their limited resources going after cases of legitimate fraud.

After all, there are people who vote on election day and die before the president is inaugurated. Their votes count. In a perfect world, we can limit voting to those who will live under the new administration. But in an imperfect world, I'll live with counting the votes of all legitimate voters who are alive on the day they cast their legitimate vote.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 1:00:10 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Dubya

So, if I voted yesterday and am killed in a car wreck tomorrow, my vote shouldn't count? Her's shouldn't count because she died of old age? She was alive, she had an opinion and she voted *while alive*. Gimmie a break.


7 posted on 10/31/2004 1:02:15 PM PST by toomuchcoffee
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To: Dubya

In other news, the Democrats have begun applying in droves for positions at retirement homes.

Can you smell the fraud yet?


8 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:13 PM PST by Prime Choice (Laura Bush is like everyone's sweetheart. Teresa Heinz-Kerry is like everyone's mother-in-law.)
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To: Dubya
This just might win the Most Misleading Headline of the Election award.
9 posted on 10/31/2004 1:12:30 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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10 posted on 10/31/2004 1:17:51 PM PST by 45semi (A Kennedy speaking, and the wind from me arse, bear suspicious resemblance...)
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To: Dubya
I agree with the other posters---this is a non-story. If you cast a legitimate ballot, whenever you do so, it should still count, even if you die before it is counted.

All I care about are the ones who were dead before they cast their ballot :)

I remember joking about this in another thread where a Republican cast his ballot for Bush before he died. I suggested that the Dems might sic one of their lawyers on him.

11 posted on 10/31/2004 1:18:47 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Dubya

If the legal absentee ballot arrived where it was supposed to by the date it was supposed to, then of course it should count. Who knows what happens to people around the nation and the world after they mail their ballots in? I'm sure in every election a certain number of absentee voters may die due to accidents, illness or war before election day. A person who votes in accordance with the absentee laws and then has the misfortune to die before the actual election should still have their vote counted.


12 posted on 10/31/2004 1:31:12 PM PST by lsee
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To: Dubya
I'm in excellent health, but you never know what will happen. Not to be morbid, but I might fall off a barstool any time and fracture my punkin' head. So I made it a point to vote early, just in case...


13 posted on 10/31/2004 1:42:26 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I support tax cuts for the rich... and I VOTE!)
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To: Dubya
The problem has arisen as an unintended consequence of laws meant to prevent a repeat of the 2000 presidential election debacle. Unlike traditional mail-in absentee ballots that are stored in labeled envelopes and can be pulled if someone dies, most of the new "in-person" early voting is being done on machines with no paper ballot to tell how those people voted.

In Nueces County, Texas the same optically scanned ballots that are used on election day are put into ballot boxes. There is an individual ballot, but there is no way to separate that ballot from any of the other ballots cast. So what if a voter dies before election day? That voter was alive the day he or she cast the ballot. None of us voted for the politicians running the government when we were born.

14 posted on 10/31/2004 1:54:04 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Proud2BeRight; Dubya

SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud

WE MUST FIGHT VOTE FRAUD!


15 posted on 10/31/2004 2:03:22 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: Dubya

Election fraud is a serious offense. Although we get many reports of such behavior, I don't recall any reports of those criminals being prosecuted. Why is that? Hard lessons have to be taught to those who would steal the rightful power of my vote and yours!


16 posted on 10/31/2004 2:16:09 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Dubya

According to this story, the woman signed the ballot herself. Fine.

But according to stories making the rounds in 2002 apparently a lot of Democrat votes were cast by people in nursing homes and insane asylums with a Democrat operative guiding their hands. You have to wonder about that. Who is checking to see that these voters are competent and are actually voting for themselves? Or that they actually even see the ballot?


17 posted on 10/31/2004 2:40:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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18 posted on 11/01/2004 5:24:28 PM PST by Henry Krinkle
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To: sonsofliberty2000
When should the death of even impacitation deadline be?

A week or a month before the election?

What if I fill out my absentee ballot but croak before the mailman shows-up? Should the mailman go inside take my pulse and then determine if my vote should count?

What if Granny, tells me she wants to vote for Bush, but she dies before the ballot arrives? Can I fill it out and sent it in?

How about Chris Reeves? While he was alive he could not fill out a ballot, could he still vote absentee even though he is now dead?

19 posted on 11/01/2004 5:34:46 PM PST by pete anderson
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But according to stories making the rounds in 2002 apparently a lot of Democrat votes were cast by people in nursing homes and insane asylums with a Democrat operative guiding their hands.

Your list could include all types of people such as those that are in jail and have not been convicted or those is mental hospitals or Detox centers.

Are we going to permit all of the above to vote or none of the above to vote?

20 posted on 11/01/2004 5:37:03 PM PST by pete anderson
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