[jmc813]

The fact that the world is an entirely different place then the one the founders lived in is not an argument conservative or otherwise, it's just a statement of simple fact.

Can we at least both agree that human nature remains the same and that we should hold absolutionist views on issues such as the first and second amendments? Can we meet in the middle there?

[CWOJackson]

See 177. When dealing with foreign enemies of this nation, which prompted by original responses, trying to pretend that the world hasn't changed since the time of the founders is foolish.