[jmc813]

Lorde Nelson explained my point much more eloquently than I can in posts 145 and 146. Check them out for an idea of where I am coming from on this.

[CWOJackson]

Lord Nelson was rambling about national values, whereas I was responding to a statement about foreign affairs...there is hardly any relationship to either posts.

[Lord Nelson]

Haven't we heard this chant "times are different" before? That was the rally call of the 1928-29 market run-up. The party was to go on forever. It was also the excuse for the dot com bubble. "Profits? That's so old school.". We had naive 20 somethings running around telling veteran workers how to run a company in the "New Age" or "New World Order". There is never, IMHO, anything new under the sun.

I guess I'm of the thinking that there is no half measures. You either are a statist or you are not. You support corporate fascism and the welfare state or you don't.