Posted on 10/30/2004 7:49:23 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
ok , ok , now relax a bit...all our hospitals are moldy and creating SARS? come on now, go toot that horn somewhere else.
i live in New-Brunswick Canada, one of the poorest provinces in the country, pretty much every hospital is in great eye candy shape, the problem is that we dont have enough Doctors or General Practitioners to do the job.
there is nothing wrong with free healthcare, who could possibly complain about that??? The biggest problems are the people of Canada and the Physicians and the legislators.
Because of our * free healthcare* system, people flood the waiting rooms of local OBGYN offices with everything from a common cold to a scrapped knee, its pretty pathetic actually. Any given day, you can walk into any Extramural hospital that tries to assist a melting pot of small villages that have a total population of lets say 10k people, in there you will find people sitting in wait 10-15 people every hour waiting to see the local SUPER DOC, for anything and everything. Understand that most of these SUPER DOCS want all those patients names on a waiting list, * logged in* into the databanks so they( the SUPER DOCS ) can be compensated as they seem fit. Americans should know that these doctors are compensated by the provincial government by the number of cases they see each day, they accumulate the * points * and send the Gov't the paperwork to prove how hard they worked and wait for compensation...thats our beautiful system at work. The general population taking advantage of themselves by stealing from themselves...with the doctors all too willing to give them ( us ) a pat on the back and whoooosh us out as fast as we came in..." Here Mr. Gawd, take the piece of paper to your local Pharmacy and be rewarded for your wait, thank you for shopping at the Bank of Canada "...
I wish you could post this on the cover of ever paper in America.
That's awful. And they can't see the link between lowering taxes, growing the economy, more jobs, larger tax base, and more tax revenue. Germany has 10% or higher unemployment, that's several million households not paying taxes to support the system. But eventually, they'll have to privatize.
Is blinachka Russian? Pycckuu?
Canada lacks a Bill of Rights. Do you think the Conservatives will propose something like this?
I'm so sorry. The Democrat Party and the RINO's here have
succeeded in culling themselves out an automatic voting
base that is based on entitlements. They want to increase
this base until it composes about 60% of the population so
power will always be in their hands, with the other 40%
of us slaving away 9 months out of the year just to foot
the bill for this huge "automatic Democrat voting bloc".
Oh, they'll toss the rest of us a peanut in the form of
"health insurance", for which we'll still have to pay huge
premiums and they'll also control this and it will be like
everything else the government gets its hands on. -
So sorry about your trials with the "health care industry".
I'm just trying to get as healthy as I can and stay out of
the doctor's office as much as I can. This whole election
which I call, "The Culmination of John Kerry's Master Plan
for His Entire Life", along with all the bin Laden stuff,
is making me sick in itself!
Why my goodness! Do you mean Kiefer Sutherland is wrong? Butbut, his grandfather wanted ALL Canadians to be healthy!
I hear they get free dental care in England.
Yep. But don't expect much more than extractions from the dentist. The Government pays a set fee for extractions and/or fillings. An extraction takes 1/5 the time and pays about the same. Go figure.
But didn't you know the government fixed our flu vaccine program in 1994??? Never had a problem before that though, been in lots since.
This article is an eye-opener:
Eros Colored Glasses: TeresaCare: Department of Wellness
http://eroscoloredglasses.blogspot.com/2004/10/teresacare-department-of-wellness.html
explain ????
Exactly.
the system was OK until Chretien and his henchman Paul Martin started drasticly cutting health care transfer payments to the provinces so that Martin could say see look we have a surplus in the federal budget, meanwhile the beleaguered provinces were in turmoil, not the least of which they never knew from year to year how much they were getting from Ottaw so they couldn't even do 1 year let alone 5 year plans
now what my fellow Canadian posted is true and it gets worse
I live in a city of 90,000, 10,000 people don't have family doctors, the GP's quit, retired or moved, many to the States because they were fed up with the salary caps and paper work and workload........so you have go to emergency and yeah 7 - 15 hours is about right, my brother had to go last weekend or a walk in clinic, which is better than emergency but still....I don't care for my doctor but I can't switch, there is no where to go
the province changed the lab testing rules etc so it takes three months to get back results from a pap smear which is unacceptable you could be dead before you get your pap
MRI scan, good luck, try a year wait on average when you can go to Buffalo tomorrow, cost you $800 US
radiation treatement the Ontario government sometimes has to send patients to the US
if you are a patient in the hospital for any extended period of time, better hope you have a family member who can spend time helping looking after you
Mark Steyn a Canadian columnist noted that whilst Kerry is decrying the death of 1000 soldiers in Iraq and stumping for Candadian style health care, 1000 people have died of C difficile, a nasty bacteria you pick up IN the hospital, especially in Quebec, caused by lack of cleaniless in the hospitals due to cut backs - ie preventable and this thing is still spreading, so in other words we have a carnage comparable to Iraq.........but no one says much about it yet
Rudy Boschwitz: Kerry's health plan will shift costs to taxpayers
Rudy Boschwitz
October 31, 2004 BOSCHWITZ1031
There is no dispute that America's system of free-market health care is the best in the world. That is particularly the case here in Minnesota. It's not just the Mayo Clinic, but many scores of superior medical facilities and practices. Plus we have the "Medical Alley" here which represents the future of progressive research and modern medicine.
Currently, about 85 percent of Americans have relatively easy and regular access to our best-in-the world health care system. The question that lawmakers, health-care experts and the president must address is how to expand the availability and affordability of health care to all Americans without undermining the fundamental strengths of the system. President Bush has offered a solid, comprehensive approach to expanding health care while keeping the focus on patients and doctors.
Bush's plans will extend coverage to more Americans and lower costs by promoting choice and competition, reining in out-of-control medical liability costs and expanding the use of information technology in the health-care sector. And, importantly, the president will keep doctors and patients in charge of health care.
My former Senate colleague and friend, David Durenberger, argued Oct. 27 that Sen. John Kerry's health-care plan would do the same thing. Kerry's plan will do exactly the opposite. Rather than reducing costs, it will simply shift them to taxpayers. His proposal will increase government control and could kill the health-care innovation flourishing in Minnesota.
Independent analysis by two outside groups put the cost of Kerry's health plan at between $1.25 and $1.5 trillion. Yet worse than the cost is the type of care the Kerry plan promotes -- namely, government-run care. Over 80 percent of people covered under the Kerry plan would be placed in Medicaid, a government-run health care program.
Kerry says he will open up the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan (FEHBP). He claims to give all Americans access to "the same plan that members of Congress have." But read the fine print. Kerry actually proposes to set up a separate, national government-run pool, called the "Congressional Health Plan." So you don't actually get the same plan that members of Congress do and you certainly don't get the same subsidies. In fact, the 2005 average premium of the most popular family plan under FEHBP is $10,800, and the federal government pays 72 percent of those costs.
If Kerry truly wants to provide all Americans with what members of Congress have, that would cost the federal government $558 billion in 2005 alone.
Incidentally, in all my years in the Senate, I never took the Senate medical coverage. Our company's plan for all our employees was both more comprehensive and cheaper.
Kerry also promises that Americans would save $1,000 a year on their health insurance premiums. He achieves that goal by shifting insurance risks to the federal government -- or, more precisely, to taxpayers who would be on the hook for health-care expenses. The government now making health-care decisions would decide what procedures are necessary, what treatments get covered and what prescriptions are paid for. Bureaucrats and accountants would have the ultimate power over health care in America. When the government writes the checks, the government makes the rules. Wherever government has controlled health care, innovation has been stifled and private market research suffocated.
Kerry would ask taxpayers to foot the bill for a $1.5 trillion plan that actually encourages employers to offer less coverage. Patients would have fewer choices about who provides their health care and who pays for it. Doctors and hospitals would have to deal with more government complexity and paperwork.
Even the very groups Kerry claims to be helping -- small businesses -- have come out against his health plan, calling it an "overpriced albatross." A recent report done for small business groups found that the Kerry plan would burden participating businesses with at least 225 costly regulatory mandates and requirements.
Kerry's plan may sound good, but Americans wouldn't like it. Worst of all, our most gifted young people would not be lured to make medicine their life's work.
President Bush's health care plan builds on the strengths of the current system that delivers the world's best health care and helps more people gain access to it. It's the right way to go.
Rudy Boschwitz is a former U.S. senator from Minnesota.
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