Vote may sway future of electoral college

Yahoo News ^ | 10/30/04 | Mark Sherman

[Howlin]

Several Democrats eagerly proposed scrapping the Electoral College in favor of direct election of the president, but Republican-controlled congressional committees wouldn't schedule hearings.

Baloney.

This author doesn't know what he's talking about, plus he offers no proof of his claims.

Most polls find majorities favor getting rid of it.

And that is an absolute flat out lie.

[cyncooper]

Several Democrats eagerly proposed scrapping the Electoral College in favor of direct election of the president, but Republican-controlled congressional committees wouldn't schedule hearings.

I did not read past this. These same dems were out before the 2000 election informing us of how the Electoral College worked and getting us prepped to accept Bush winning the popular vote and Gore getting the electoral votes.

Their objection with the system didn't arise until the outcome was the opposite and so is not based on principle but opportunism.

Typical dem "thinking".

[OldFriend]

In Colorado BOTH parties are against the splitting of the electoral college votes.

At least in that state they see the folly of messing with the rules.

[OldFriend]

Typical dem LYING is more like it.

[Radix]

Unless you change it to give each county in the US one vote regardless of population.

Smaller states would just add more Counties.

[Tench_Coxe]

"Amending the nation's basic law requires a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress and ratification by 38 states — no easy feat, especially because the Electoral College gives small states disproportionate influence."

That gave away the approach of the author right there. Without the electoral college, large cities would effectively disenfranchise huge swaths of the rest of the country. Of course, that is what the socialists would prefer.

[Blast_Master]

It can be debated until hell freezes over, the system will never be changed. Yes, 2/3rds of the states would have to ratify such an amendment and that means that 38 states would want to give away their electorate influence which would never happen in a million years.

[The Hound Passer]

Stupid article. The small states, of which the sum could block a Constitutional change, have no incentive to abolish the EV system. The hard cold fact is they have a disincentive to to so: loss of power.

Abolishing the EV is the liberal elite's wet dream because it would mean candidates would only need to pander to the large liberal population centers. There is a book "The Great Divide" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0976062100/qid=1099154700/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-5939932-1295123?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 written by a Dem hack that suggests this is how the Dems must proceed if they are going to survive.

[Tax Government]

The electoral college is the only thing preventing localized, intense voter fraud from swinging an entire national election. It must be preserved at all costs. Forever.

[Friend of thunder]

Democracy = Mob Rule.

Popular vote = Mob Rule

A lynch mob is a democracy.

[mombrown1]

It costs a lot of money to create a county. Each would have to have it's own government. Can you see NYC or LA breaking up into 10 or 11 counties? There are approx. 1000 counties in the US of those about 900 are red. If I knew HTML (which I will learn after Nov. 2) I would post the county map from 2000.

[Radix]

 

"If I knew HTML (which I will learn after Nov. 2) I would post the county map from 2000."

You do not need to learn HTML. I have a few books for sale though if you do insist on learning though.

Most of the graphics and images are posted using very simple programs. The photoshop images take a bit more. I have puter troubles and so I cannot do certain things, but I am just a puter away from remedying that problem.

Here is an image of the counties in my State. It took me less than 30 seconds to post this image for you.

[mombrown1]

I have the map saved on my MS word program. How do I copy it to post it?

[okie01]

And who can blame them? Who wants NY, CALI, TX bossing around the whole country?

I wouldn't trust New York or California with that kind of power.

But Texas...?

[Beckwith]

I heard on Public TV that there have been more than 700 attempts to do away with the Electoral College since the Founding Fathers included the process in the US Constitution.

[jocon307]

"But Texas...?"

LOL, I actually thought of that after I posted.

What the heck, we're all getting bossed around by Florida, Ohio, and Pennsy this year. If not Hawai'i!