Posted on 10/30/2004 5:57:58 AM PDT by Timeout
ZOGBY polls are as worthless as tits on a bull.
He DID have enough sauce, unfortunately, to put Kerry back in the lead.
While I hope Thune wins, its not the race that has my stomach in knots.
He is going after the so-called Undecideds and the so-called "new" voters who are giving Kerry his 1 point lead. Big whoopsie do.. 1 point which is within the margin of error. The first poll that Kerry is leading and with the constant negative drumbeat this week that Bush has had to undergo with the negative carpings of the MSM, I cannot believe that Zogby has Kerry only 1 point ahead. I am sure he is flabergasted also!!!
"There's almost a panic [among Democrats] around the nation about Daschle being able to cling to his seat," Thune campaign manager Dick Wadhams said.Friday's Question: Not so, Daschle supporters say. For starters, they say, the Zogby poll published in the Rapid City Journal is flawed. It showed Republican Thune leading Daschle, 48.5 percent to 45.5 percent, just within the margin of error. At first, however, the poll had shown an even larger Thune lead, which seemed so improbable that the pollsters adjusted their voter turnout estimates and arrived at the narrower gap.
Democrats scoffed, saying the poll remains suspect. It contradicts other public polls showing Daschle slightly ahead, and it showed House GOP challenger Larry Diedrich leading Rep. Stephanie Herseth (D). Even some Republicans find that hard to believe.
Zogby adjusts according to his mood..No one knows his methodolgy.
Zogby is normally right on in Presidential years. Don't discount his numbers.
...or balls on a mare.
I dont recall him being around in 1992 and 1996. Do you have any numbers for those years??? Being right one year doesnt make one an expert!
Excellent post. Zogby is not a pollster, but a spinner. The problem with the vast lack of poll comprehension (thank you, public schools) by the body politic is that, in turn, spinners like Zogby can bury the garbage stink sauce in the MOE. After blowing the 2002 Congressional races, Bush's +4% / +290 EV win in 2004 will once and for all fully discredit Zogby and his methods.
Here's why I find this article interesting.
Zogby DOES have a good reputation. But, by changing his results, he is saying he screwed up the INITIAL poll so badly that it skewed the results by 3 whole points (that's a huge error!).
What other polls might he be screwing up---but no "reporters" or Rat campaign workers demanded he change them?
All you need to know about Ziggy's credibility is this: He is an Arab, a Muslim exteremist dressed in western garb and a left wing liberal zealot.
The bigger question is how it is that so many Bush supporters can also support Daschle, who thwarts Bush at every turn.
If Thune were to beat Daschle, that would earn him a lot of gratitude from the GOP. He would be a hero, thus making it easier for the Junior Senator to bring home some of the bacon that Daschle apparently does (how else could he win in SD???). If SDans realized this then it probably wouldn't even be close.
I really wonder how accurate any polls are in this state. I live in Sioux Falls and I have not been polled even ONCE during this election. I really wonder who they are calling.
On a side note, I have had a LOT of fun with all the Daschole workers that keep showing up. I just ask what it would take for me to convince them to vote for Thune. They used to engage in dissucussion, lately they just scurry off as fast as they can.
I have a real good feeling about this election!.
Right? I think he adjusts his numbers to confirm his next press release. More than any other pollsters he is quoted too too much. His results and the statistics that got them should speak for themselves. His edification is suspect.
Zogby has always admitted this. Acouple of months ago on MSNBC he admitted to changing his national polls to reflect 40% Dem and 32% Republican. His polls are worth less than then ethics training at the Dem National Convention.
A poor scientist tinkers with his statistical methods till he gets the results he wants. "If you torture the data, it will confess."
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