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A Close Vote? Let's Hope Not.
MSNBC ^ | November 1, 2004 Issue | Robert J. Samuelson of Newsweek

Posted on 10/29/2004 10:31:33 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger

The most unsettling danger is that post-election combat by party warlords will become a permanent part of the political process. Curtis Gans, the director of the committee for the Study of the American Electorate, expects between 118 million and 121 million Americans to vote next week, up sharply from the 105 million who voted in 2000. The larger figure would represent a turnout of 60 percent of eligible voters, the highest since 1968, and is just one indicator of the passions aroused by this campaign. But regardless of turnout and your preferred candidate, we all ought to hope for this outcome: the victor wins by a big enough margin to avoid an aftershock of contested ballots, lawsuits and court decisions.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10klawyers; dnc; fl2000; rnc; sorelosermannii; voting
Hopefully, Mr. Samuelson will get his wish when President Bush is reelected with over 52% of the popular vote and an EV majority over 270!
1 posted on 10/29/2004 10:31:34 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger

Well in 2000 we got President Bush - Then the Repubs. took over the Senate - So - with even more citizens coming out this year -


Stands to reason what is coming -


2 posted on 10/29/2004 10:35:18 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: The Loan Arranger
I'm calling it for Bush, 320 to 218 and a spread of 5+ percentage points in the popular vote.

...after today's events, I may adjust those predictions upward.

3 posted on 10/29/2004 10:38:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: The Loan Arranger
CNN doing a story bashing republicans for vote challenges.

The story calling it intimidation tactics and there is no rebuttal. NONE.

Not a single mention of the effort being used to verify legal votes and prevent fraud. It is simply called legal intimidation!

4 posted on 10/29/2004 10:40:12 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Jeff Head

I am right in there with your totals. That is the way I see it.


5 posted on 10/29/2004 10:42:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: The Loan Arranger

I could care less as long as we win.


6 posted on 10/29/2004 10:42:44 PM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Cold Heat
CNN doing a story bashing republicans for vote challenges.

PBS (The News Hour) did a good job tonight presenting both sides. Of course, only one side makes sense.

I don't have cable, and I won't watch the others, but I do think PBS gives both sides of most issues. I've heard people complain about The News Hour and Jim Lehrer, but the coverage is fair, in my opinion, although tonight I could have sworn I heard Jim say "President Kerry" when he made his closing comment. But he mumbles sometimes, so maybe I heard wrong (I heard it, and was doing something else). But I can forgive him, because perhaps he likes Kerry. I haven't seen bias from him, in spite of what people say his political preferences are.

If CNN's so bad, why do people watch it?

7 posted on 10/29/2004 10:47:50 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: The Loan Arranger

"......danger is that post-election combat by party warlords"

My God, now we have "warlords" running around in America just like Afghanistan. These SOB media drivel haven't got one ounce of decency. They plain suck.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 10:50:32 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (John Kerry purposefully went after the wrong goose in the wrong place at the wrong time.)
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To: Technical Editor
I can say the Leher program efforts to be fair. But they fail at times.

I usually do not watch CNN or PMSNBC, except to see reactions to events.

I was perusing CNN to access democrat adviser reaction to the bin laden tape.

I have the channel deleted from the memory, as well as other and I have to punch the numbers so I do not accidentally land on them.

9 posted on 10/29/2004 10:55:43 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Jeff Head
>I'm calling it for Bush, 320 to 218 and a spread of 5+ percentage points in the popular vote.
I'm just not as optimistic as you.... I'm hoping for a landslide, but I just don't think it will be: voter fraud, DUummies, minority... you name it! Just as long as it's far enough to save us a whole lot of grief with a recount and lawyers crawling all over the nation.
10 posted on 10/29/2004 11:06:51 PM PDT by bullzeye66
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To: Technical Editor
If CNN's so bad, why do people watch it?

If Kerry's so bad, why do 50% of Americans hate him?

11 posted on 10/29/2004 11:09:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: Technical Editor

Or love him, as the case may be.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 11:10:33 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: The Loan Arranger

I believe we will win by a 5 percent margin...I really hope this happens because we all know the aftermath is going to be ugly if it is any closer.

p.s. It will still probably be ugly anyway.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 11:12:23 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: Cold Heat
CNN doing a story bashing republicans for vote challenges.

Here's Walter Cronkite's fascinating take on it, for Larry King:

KING: A huge turnout?

CRONKITE: Oh, yes, I do. I think so. The only thing that could damage the turnout would be the threats that might be implied, as many of the new registrees are challenged as to their various things. Their spelling of their name and the state where they really come from, whether they're immigrants or not, do they have passports, all that kind of thing. If they are challenged at the polls, as they line up to go into the polls, they may fear having to answer all those questions. Particularly if they do have anything wrong about them and shouldn't vote.


14 posted on 10/30/2004 12:30:04 AM PDT by D-fendr (They can't steal it if it isn't close.)
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