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Laser Etching ID Proposed For Handgun Ammo
"Inside News" Firearms Marketing Group
| October 2004
| Denny Fallon
Posted on 10/29/2004 9:29:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I'm not familiar on California law, but I know the AG there has "Stroke of the pen, law of the land" powers on gun bans...(by calling them assault weapons).
Does he have broad powers on ammo too?
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posted on
10/29/2004 9:52:29 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
To: Travis McGee
I was doing research on FREESTONE COUNTY Texas and got a newspaper thats not online to send me a free copy. There is an ad there for the county wildlife management agency holding a fundraiser at a public high school, they are gonna be giving away GUNS!!! to KIDS!!!
I LOVE RURAL TEXAS
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posted on
10/29/2004 9:56:37 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
To: Travis McGee
SheesH, I misread, they are talking about bullets. Good lord!
Cast Bullet molds, swaging, none of those supplies are regulated, and they never have been, that I know of.
This is a waste and Police state fantasy. Do they think criminals won't steal ammunition or that it will not be sold underground?
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:03:03 PM PDT
by
prophetic
(What do u call someone who flip-flops so much? A Politician? No, a HYPOCRITE!!)
To: spodefly
As always, the point is not to catch criminals, but to criminalize gun ownership by a thousand cuts.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:04:36 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
How nice.
A person trying to sell bullets that will infringe on our second amendment rights and cost us more money to shoot.
This A-hole can get bent.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:04:54 PM PDT
by
flashbunny
(Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
To: Travis McGee
You know Travis ... I'm thinking that being a gun runner into California is gonna be a very profitable career alternative soon. It's moral too.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:09:09 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
To: Travis McGee
The cost of ammo would be a consideration also.
5.56mm
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:11:25 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: Travis McGee
Hmmmm . . . Old Ben is as just another Homer, but I don't think it's such a good idea now . . .
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:14:25 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
To: Travis McGee
Why do they want to create a bigger black market for bullets?
To: Travis McGee
Sounds great for catching crooks, but what are the downside risks to our gun rights?""
A full tracking of how much ammo you buy. followed closely by a report from you to the GOVMT explaining where you used the ammo, and what your current inventory is.
Up to now, there is no tracking of anyone who buys ammo.
To: Travis McGee
Time to tell Lockyear to go and suck a fat baby's a$$.
To: Travis McGee
First, the demand for 'off' calibers will increase.
Tagged ammo will be more expensive than the same non-tagged ammo is now.
Demand for pre-tag ammo will go up.
Taxes will be imposed on the ammo to maintain the ammo registry.
No one will want to buy ammo, because it will 'register' their caliber, if not the firearm(s), by providing a database of ammo purchasers.
Of course, the first follow-up laws will ban straw purchases of ammo, or require the reseller to maintain records in perpetuity.
Deformed, distorted or damaged tags may lead to wrongful convictions, there is no guarantee that numerical or alphanumeric tags will not be damaged in handling, firing, impact, or recovery.
Stolen ammo may be tracked back to an innocent person.
Only by maintaining meticulous records of every round or component will anyone have a prayer of 'proving' their innocence.
Tags which are not in plain view (i.e. on the base of the bullet, which would be most likely to survive least deformed) may not correspond with the number on the package, and render the system worse than useless, but lead to wrongful convictions.
My fingers are getting tired, but that should be a good start.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:42:09 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
To: NY Attitude
Notice that there is no mention of SHOTGUNS? Let's see you etch your frickin' numbers on some 8 shot 12 ga. Heck, even on buckshot. Slugs, yeah, you could do that with an engraver.....or a metal stamp set even.
Time to start pouring some ceramic projectiles for the handguns yet?
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:42:52 PM PDT
by
datura
(Liberalism resembles advanced syphilis..)
To: Travis McGee
The National Shooting Sports Foundation keeps track of the number of rounds producted each year. Trust me, it is billions. Serial number each one and record the purchaser?
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:44:11 PM PDT
by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: datura
The AG in California is really out to lunch. Reminds me of Charles Shumer. Of course he (Lockyear) will have the ammo that Diane Feinstein engraved as well.
To: Travis McGee
Etching ammunition is akin to the "Ballistic Fingerprinting" that Marylanders have to endure. It sounds all warm and fuzzy, but it's a useless, though expensive waste of time.
Ammunition is easily available over the Net. From gun dealers' sites in other states and countries. Delivered by UPS.
Evidently, someone only half-thought this through. Like the morons who came up with "Ballistic Fingerprinting" in Maryland. Where the State Police keep a round fired from a new or old pistol before you buy it.
Unaware that you can also order new barrels for any automatic pistol. Again, over the Net.
Take the original barrel out. Slip in a new one. And you've defeated "Ballistic Fingerprinting".
Laser Etching is just another invasion of the buyer's privacy. And another slow erosion of the 2nd Amendment!
Jack.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:48:37 PM PDT
by
Jack Deth
(When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
To: Travis McGee
I use a velcro strapped bag to catch my brass. How would laser etching do a damn thing should I go on a shooting spree?
There should be an IQ test for being able to purpose legislation...
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:53:24 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
To: Smokin' Joe
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:57:25 PM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
To: Dead Corpse
This was on the slug itself, not the casing.
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posted on
10/29/2004 10:59:32 PM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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