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To: Shermy
"Moroccans? I don't see anything proving there's been more or less recruiting before or after 9/11."

Spaniards probably think otherwise.

Can you tell us where you get your data on the sign-up dates for terrorists? Is it like going to their home page on FR? You seem to know when they all joined up.

49 posted on 10/29/2004 4:03:34 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
"Moroccans? I don't see anything proving there's been more or less recruiting before or after 9/11."

Spaniards probably think otherwise.

They don't. For example, terrorism judge Garzon's statements, recent editorials in Spain regarding the latest plots which had nothing to do with what America does in Iraq, etc. AS for the "number" I should clarify if any increase occured it had to do with Iraq. Even the leftist govt. in Spain has dropped that line. Can you tell us where you get your data on the sign-up dates for terrorists? Is it like going to their home page on FR? You seem to know when they all joined up.

I haven't noticed any body say there's been any particular surge in increase from the Arab world at all. Naturally the local Sunnis, ie, Saddam's privileged class and henchmen, have instigated terror mostly in the Sunni triangle, but that's local and not due to Osama bin Laden particularly. As for the foreign terrorists there they are not inspired so much by Osama but by neighboring nations using them as cover for there own particular interests. I learn this in part from Iraqi blogs and their govt's statements - wholly unreported in the MSM who prefer a storyline that it's a general and wholly genuine reaction to Bush. Heck, before the war Osama was saying it was our sanctions that killed 1,000,000 Iraqi babies as a slogan for recruitment. If we had pulled out altogether, then we get blamed for a genocide of Kurds by Saddam's returning forces into the autonomous zones. It was a no-win situation.

68 posted on 10/29/2004 4:23:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: lugsoul

"Can you tell us where you get your data on the sign-up dates for terrorists? Is it like going to their home page on FR? You seem to know when they all joined up."

Pot, meet kettle. The only thing we know for sure about terrorist numbers is that more of them are dead, as far as raw numbers go. A percentage? Well, we'd have to know the total number of terrorists out there, wouldn't we?

Y'all ought to just agree to disagree on this fact. You have doctrinal differences here that aren't going to be solved on this issue anyway. It comes down to the idea that you, lug, believe the Bush Iraqi intervention has created terrorists.

I think most of us disagree. In fact, I think Iraqis are getting sick of the terrorists in their midst. But as I haven't been to Iraq recently, all I can read is the newspaper and online accounts. The MSM accounts disagree with me. The online accounts agree with me. I'll trust the latter, I think.


80 posted on 10/29/2004 5:45:13 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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