Posted on 10/29/2004 1:11:02 PM PDT by 4kevin
We have been advised that material was recently posted to this forum referencing the nature of John Kerry's discharge from the military service. That material has been deleted from this forum.
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http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15171
Smart move, frankly. Without hard proof they're just opening themselves up for SERIOUS legal retribution.
...damn...
Kerry's a public figure. He can't sue for libel. So, why the timidity from the Swifties?
Only Kerry is innocent until proven guilty. Bush is guilty of any manufactured rumor.
Maybe it wasn't ready for post yet....lets wait and see...
ping
Kerry lawyers must have threatened them like they did Sinclair. Unlike Iraqi missing explosives story leaked by IAEA with CBS, NYT, and DNC, they would not want a story to run prior to the elections that could hurt one of the candidates (unless of course it is GWB).
http://conservativevoice.blogspot.com/
Thursday, October 28, 2004
John Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge
Through a very reliable source, I received a copy of the following e-mail to Sean Hannity asking his help in exposing the truth about John Kerry's discharge papers from the US Navy. The author is a retired former Navy lawyer and he references the former personal lawyer to then Secretary of the Navy J. William Middendorf.
If these two gentlemen can shed light on the truth of John Kerry's record, then the American people have a right to know.
Subject: Fw: THE JIMMY CARTER LEGACY CONTINUES
Sean,
I was on active duty as a U.S. Navy lawyer when all of this was going on some 25 to 30 years ago, and so was Mark F. Sullivan, who at all relevant times was the personal lawyer to J. William Middendorf, then the Secretary of the Navy. We remember.
We are trying to break this absolutely true story nationwide, i.e., Fox News, C Span, and hopefully all the major networks. We are positive that John Kerry was one of those dishonorably dismissed from the Navy for collaborating with the Viet Cong, after he was released from active duty but still in the Navy, and for a totally unauthorized trip to Hanoi. He later got an "honorable" separation in 1978, some 12 years after joining the Navy, under President Carter's "Amnesty Program" for draft dodgers, deserters, and other malcontents who fled to Canada and Holland, among other places, to avoid military service to our country.
This is why he has refused, and continues to refuse, to release all of his Navy records: they reflect that he was Dishonorably Dismissed from the United States Naval Service. If they do not (which they do), he would have released them to the public. Again, he has not done so, because he well knows that the truth would kill his challenge to President Bush.
Sincerely,
DONALD L. NELSON
CAPT, JAGC, USNR
(Ret.)
Let's hope this story continues to develop
ping
I don't think they would back down from lawsuits, but they to not want to have their reputation destroyed. If this is going to come out, it has to come out from the source of the information.
Have already circulated far and wide.
First it was posted. Now the site has pulled the info and written a very careful notice that it was not posted officially.
Why? Because it was wrong or badly sourced. They're disowning the thing.
Don't look for this to reappear on their site.
Signed 180 or not, solid evidence on this exists, someplace.
It is time to play hardball, or admit that we do not have any.
Exactly
> We are positive that John Kerry was one of those
> dishonorably dismissed ...
For this to have any traction, it needs to read, at the
very least "We have personal knowledge that ...".
Ideally, it needs to read "We have proof that ...".
Since it doesn't, this is almost certainly not whatever
story the NavyChief account on SVBFT was rumoring.
We await some solid info.
bttt
Actually, there is a source, a JAG officer who worked for the Secretary of the Navy. He has written to Hannity, but doesn't seem to be an actual witness. Not there yet.
I think that's what's going on. The SWVT has been so badly smeared in the MSM as "liars" (no proof given, of course, just the allegations) that an unfounded rumour would give the libs the "I told you so" that want. The SWVT has been very careful to fully vet their facts and that appears to be what they're doing here. Smart move, IMO.
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