[Richard Kimball]

Very true. However, it does not carry the stigma of a general or any other than honorable. One of the guys I worked with had a general under honorable, and although he was difficult to pen down on the circumstances, I think he got wind of his wife cheating on him and went over the hill to chase her down. They bounced him, but didn't want to ruin his life, so they went general under honorable.

There are a range of discharges, and even if someone is a problem, there are options to get them out without stigmatizing them for life. An other than honorable, though, means the guy who discharged Kerry wanted to leave a mark. That's assuming, of course, this information is accurate.

[littlelilac]

I would respectfully disagree.

If Kerry received a less than honourable discharge that was pardoned or upgraded later by Jimmy Carter and/or his miltary record was otherwise whitewashed later, it proves the following:

a) Kerry is exposed as a liar again - when Kerry was campaigning for the Democratic Congressional Nomination in 1970 he claimed he was honourably dishcarged in March 1970 -see his interview with the Harvard Crimson Tide of February 18, 1970;

b) the reason for the less than honourable discharge had to be his anti-war activities whilst still a commissioned officer so clearly Kerry has gone to great lengths to cover this up because he has known from the beginning it would hurt his political ambitions; and

c) Kerry has been exposed for yet another lie - his own website is not carrying the truth about his military record.

Note to Lawrence O' Donnell - you've identified the wrong creepy liar.