[CaptainVictory]

Not "dishonorable." It's "Other than Honorable." Big difference. Not that it should matter, but that may be one of their talking points if this pans out.

Yes. Huge difference. (1) A DD can only be granted after a criminal conviction (i.e., General Court-Martial); (2) a discharge under other than honorable conditions (a.k.a. UOTHC, UO, or OTH) is granted in an administrative discharge proceeding; and (3) even in the wake of a conviction by court-martial, an officer cannot get a DD, only a "dismissal."

If in fact this turns out to be true (and I will believe it when I see it), we need to make sure we have our facts straight. Let sloppiness be the hallmark of CBS, not Freep.

[txroadkill]

I don't know anything about how this works, But I had a friend who got in the Navy and his wife cheated on him with another sailor. When he got home he beat the hell out of the guy. He received an "other than Honorable discharge" but was able to have it changed to honorable after 5 years. He said it was no big deal and that they will change it to honorable after a certain amount of time as punishment and that it was his belief that anyone who receives Other than Honorable can get it changed. The Less than honorable and dis-honorable are the only ones permanent. In fact, he re-enlisted and is still in the Navy---But this could be wrong, I have no first hand knowledge

[holden]

It seems to me there needs to be more care given to avoid saying "Kerry did not receive an Honorable Discharge," inasmuch as that is probably a falsehood, since he apparently belatedly, in 1978 from Jimmy Carter or at least by March of 2001, just to mention two of his so-far, four claimed dates of his discharge, did have his discharge upgraded to "honorable."

It seems we need to be clear (assumedly, only if true) that in 197x, Kerry received, e.g., an "Other Than Honorable Discharge, (e.g.) which only through Democrat President Carter, contemporaneously with his draft dodger and AWOL amnesty program" was done this favor from his party's comrade, the President.

What becomes important is the reason for such OTH discharge. If it was stated anywhere that "he gave aid and comfort to the enemy," the man is simply ineligible to be President, and must be removed from the ballot, even if after the fact.

HF

[goldstategop]

I don't care. The libs have used the SOTC" to destroy more than one GOP career for decades now. I explain they'll complain its an 11th hour trick? Too bad, Kerry had 33 years to reveal the truth to the American people and he's still hiding his records from them. This is serious stuff and the evidence or lack of it shouldn't matter. President Bush nearly lost the 2000 election for less. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy than Kerry.