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War drawing young local voters into election
The Press Democrat ^ | October 29, 2004 | MARTIN ESPINOZA

Posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:50 AM PDT by Tamar1973

Sonoma State University student Gabrielle Chretien worries that if President Bush is re-elected, his war on terror will lead to more drawn-out military conflicts all over the world.

"It's very sad," said the 20-year-old liberal studies major. "He's using money that we don't have for a war so many of us do not want, and yet there is no health care."

Ashley Brucklacher has a different view.

The 20-year-old communications major at SSU said she is also concerned about the war. But she supports Bush's actions, even if all the pre-war justifications have not panned out.

"I don't think that anybody really wants to go to war. But it's our job as citizens to support our troops," Brucklacher said, adding she'll cast her vote for Bush because she trusts the moral compass he uses to make decisions.

For Chretien and Brucklacher, and countless other college students across the country, the war in Iraq has turned the campus spotlight on the 2004 presidential election. It's the entry point into other issues that could affect the younger generation.

The war and its costs lead to discussions on health care, jobs and a possible draft. Abortion and stem-cell research also resonate as the nation's newest voters scope out positions, often on perceived moral lines.

Political researchers say that in this election, what young people think is important because Bush and Sen. John Kerry are more likely to find new voters among 18- to 24-year-olds, a group that promises to turn out Tuesday in record numbers.

In 2000, only 36 percent of Americans 18 to 24, or 8.6 million people, voted in the presidential election, compared with 63 percent of Americans over 25 who participated, said Mark Bunge, a senior analyst with Peter D. Hart Research Associates.

Bunge's firm, along with Republican pollster John McLaughlin, conducts MTV's "Choose or Lose" polls, which explore young voters' attitudes toward politics and current events.

"Playing the odds, you're dealing with two-thirds of young people who didn't vote in 2000 versus two-thirds of people over 25 who did," Bunge said. "The probability of turning out a new vote is much greater among people under 25 than the rest of the electorate."

Last week, a national poll by the Kennedy School of Government's Institute of Politics found exceptionally high interest among young voters in the presidential election. Nearly 72 percent of college students said they were "certain" they are registered and they "definitely" plan to vote.

The findings differ significantly from those in a survey conducted several months ago by Hart Research for the Leon and Sylvia Panetta Institute, a public-policy think tank at California State University, Monterey Bay. That survey found 43 percent of U.S. college students believed politics had little or no relevance to their lives. The two polls suggest the candidates, during the weeks leading up to the election, have succeeded in getting their messages to young voters.

Panetta, a former congressman and chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, said the war, talk of a draft and the economy pushed young people onto voter rolls.

"People are motivated to vote when they believe that their interests are jeopardized or threatened," Panetta said. "Job security, the ability to lead their life the way they want - fear is always a bigger motivator than hope."

Said Chretien: "I'm afraid that we'll have a draft. I'm not willing to risk my life or that of my loved ones for a war I don't believe in."

About half the country's 18- to 29-year-olds believe Bush favors a draft even though he repeatedly has rejected the idea, according to a poll concluded Oct. 3 by the University of Pennsylvania's National Annenberg Election Survey.

Cody Sapieka, 20, a junior at SSU majoring in wine business, said that's an issue he thinks about. It was the televised debates that grabbed his attention and helped convince him to vote for Kerry.

John Henry Waugh, a 19-year-old football player for Santa Rosa Junior College, already has cast his vote - an absentee ballot from his home state of Washington. Waugh said the issues that resonate most with him are the war, environment, education and women's rights.

Jordan Finn, an 18-year-old SRJC freshman, said her political views are greatly influenced by her parents, who are voting for Bush.

Other students also said the opinions of parents play a big role in how they'll vote.

Finn said she is voting for Bush because she feels safer with him in the White House.

Tiffany Caldwell, treasurer of the Sonoma State College Republicans , said most of the club's members are concerned about the war in Iraq. It's the issue that resonates with the students who are throwing support behind Bush.

"The vast majority support President Bush's actions," she said. "They don't trust Kerry's promise to finish the conflict properly."

Carlos Nieto, an SSU sophomore who heads the Progressive College Democrats, said many students are worried about the economy, rising college tuition and health care.

"The administration says the economy is improving, but that only applies to low-paying jobs, retail, fast food," said Nieto, who hopes to go to law school.

Chretien, a friend of Nieto's, carries a voter information pamphlet in a tan shoulder bag with her college books and notes. She's committed to brushing up on every state and local election initiative and candidate.

But make no mistake, it's the presidential election that's drawing her to the polls Tuesday. "It's going to be the fall of the American empire if Bush gets re-elected," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bush; college; democrat; election2004; kerry; president; republican; sonomacounty; ssu; university; voting; youthvote
"It's very sad," said the 20-year-old liberal studies major. "He's using money that we don't have for a war so many of us do not want, and yet there is no health care."

Someone remind this youngster that Americans have a Consitutional right of National Security but there's NO right to Universal Health Care. What's the point of having universal heath care if we are being forced to learn Arabic and pray to Mecca 5 times/day. Boy are liberals shortsighted.

1 posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:52 AM PDT by Tamar1973
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To: Tamar1973

What about our constitutional right to free cable tv and carribean vacations. Might as well add them to the list.


2 posted on 10/29/2004 9:39:22 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Tamar1973
Someone remind this youngster that Americans have a Consitutional right of National Security but there's NO right to Universal Health Care.

What ever gave you the idea that an idealistic, socialistic, whiny 20-something gives a damn about what the Constitution says about anything, let alone something as "basic" as the "right" to health care?</rhetorical>

3 posted on 10/29/2004 9:40:05 AM PDT by newgeezer (Democrats will cheat, steal, lie, do ANYTHING to win, because their noble goals justify every means.)
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To: newgeezer
What ever gave you the idea that an idealistic, socialistic, whiny 20-something gives a damn about what the Constitution says about anything, let alone something as "basic" as the "right" to health care?

Shows you the failure of our elemetary and high school education systems, I guess.

4 posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:53 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("John Kerry: Betraying America Since 1971!"--Ann Coulter)
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To: Tamar1973
What's a "liberal studies" major? I will bet dollars to donuts that it has nothing to do with the classical meaning of the word. More likely, it is something that encourages a young nitwit to opine that it's evil to spend "money we don't have" on purpose X (the war), but it would be ok to spend the selfsame nonexistent funds on purpose Y.

Everybody who can mouth the phrase "there is no health care" should be forced to llsten to his own voice repeating it 10,000 times while (or before) receiving treatment for any medical condition. How many repetitions would it take for him to notice the absurdity?

5 posted on 10/29/2004 9:46:28 AM PDT by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: Tamar1973
Cody Sapieka, 20, a junior at SSU majoring in wine business, said that's an issue he thinks about. It was the televised debates that grabbed his attention and helped convince him to vote for Kerry.
Cody majors in wine business? You can major in wine? The real story here is not young voters but the utter collapse of higher education.
6 posted on 10/29/2004 9:51:47 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Asclepius
Cody majors in wine business? You can major in wine?

You forget that Sonoma County is in the heart of California's wine country, it's a neighbour to the more famous Napa County.

A wine business major is basically a specialised Agriculture Business major. There's nothing wrong with that. I think the fact that Agribusines degress of any kind are still offered in US colleges and universities is one of the few good things about American higher education.

However, I also think that Mr. Sapieka have been drinking too much of the stuff to seriously consider voting for Kerry.

7 posted on 10/29/2004 9:55:26 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("John Kerry: Betraying America Since 1971!"--Ann Coulter)
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To: Tamar1973

20-year-old liberal studies major,,,19-year-old football player,,,,20, a junior at SSU majoring in wine business,,,

My question is, WHAT KIND OF CRAP ARE THEY TEACHING IN HIGHER EDUCATION THESE DAYS.

Liberal studies= Commie socialist liberal gutless professional lying whiner. Like everybody at the DNC & MSM.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 9:59:16 AM PDT by 50 Cal (A Lawyer is nothing but a Politician in Larval Form!)
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To: Tamar1973

"It's going to be the fall of the American empire if Bush gets re-elected," she said.

First of all, America is not an Empire, you nitwit.

And second, if it IS an Empire according to you and your fuzzy little liberal pea brain, wouldn't its fall be desirable? Meaning that by your own logic, you should vote for Bush!!!!


9 posted on 10/29/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by LibertyGirl77
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To: 50 Cal

I didn't major in wine, however I did undertake a very rigorous extra-curricular study in beer.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 10:12:50 AM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

Yea, I ended up majoring in partying in the parking lot myself.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 10:15:23 AM PDT by 50 Cal (A Lawyer is nothing but a Politician in Larval Form!)
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To: thulldud

"Liberal Arts" were originally the seven studies of grammar, rhetoric, logic, math, geometry, music and astronomy. Later it became a major for college students who didn't want to commit to any particular direction. "Liberal studies" sounds like political science, socialism, dissent, diversity and new age BS. I'm sure she thinks we must take all the earnings from the evil rich to pay for her education, health care and so forth. She also probably thinks that under a universal socialist world, there would be no reason for war since we all would have the same and we all would own nothing.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 10:46:57 AM PDT by Sender (I love watching the final spastic throes of the Kerry faithful...as they ravage one another...)
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To: Sender
She also probably thinks that under a universal socialist world, there would be no reason for war since we all would have the same and we all would own nothing.

Possibly she thinks, or rather "feels", that the way to achieve and preserve that socialist utopia is to geld all those eeevil walking testosterone factories that prey upon the weak and thereby become the "evil rich".

C'est possible, non? (A little JF'nK lingo there....)

13 posted on 10/29/2004 12:34:34 PM PDT by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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