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To: tpaine

Oh, here's some more evidence that was never responded to.

An entire consolidation of the States into one complete national sovereignty would imply an entire subordination of the parts; and whatever powers might remain in them would be altogether dependent on the general will. But as the plan of the convention aims only at a partial union or consolidation, the State governments would clearly retain all the rights of sovereignty which they before had, and which were not, by that act, exclusively delegated to the United States.
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 32 (emphasis in original)

In this relation, then, the proposed government cannot be deemed a national one; since its jurisdiction extends to certain enumerated objects only, and leaves to the several States a residuary and inviolable sovereignty over all other objects.
James Madison, Federalist 39 (emphasis in original)

Do these principles, in fine, require that the powers of the general government should be limited, and that, beyond this limit, the States should be left in possession of their sovereignty and independence? We have seen that in the new government, as in the old, the general powers are limited; and that the States, in all unenumerated cases, are left in the enjoyment of their sovereign and independent jurisdiction.
James Madison, Federalist 40 (emphasis added)

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State government are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. The operations of the federal government will be most extensive and important in times of war and danger; those of the State governments in times of peace and security.
James Madison, Federalist 45


371 posted on 11/11/2004 1:19:38 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: RayStacy
Amusing retort..
Obviously, our 14th Amendment is only "incredibly unclear" to those who want to infringe upon our individual rights.

I am still waiting for you to provide one single piece of evidence for your positions. Just one.

This thread has all of the evidence you need to understand my positions. Your refusal to 'see' those posts is ludicrous.

Also, is this your new fallback position -- that the 14th amend is the key to happiness?

Whatever.

Have you given up on the BOR applying to the states from inception.

Of course not. The fact is, you just can't 'see' the connection. Tough.

Just in case you haven't, please read below. Below is what we call evidence, --

No, it's a method called cut & paste spamming. -- We've all seen these quotes before.
-- Come up with some valid new points on the subject, or be ignored.

375 posted on 11/11/2004 2:51:42 PM PST by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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