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Trailer trash: fightin' mad, want Dubya (the “realism & idealism” of academia loses to hillbillies)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 29, 2004 | Peter Hartcher

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:14:04 AM PDT by dead

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To: najida
At that point, I thought he was describing flyover country. The folks who love country and family, work hard, and try to live good and decent lives. A lot of immigrant groups fall into that category. Mine included. And not one word of it is a bad thing.

See my post #37.

41 posted on 10/28/2004 7:44:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Ghengis
Spell checker mistake. Should have said:

Those who still carry that spirit, will get our backs up when we or our people are violated.

42 posted on 10/28/2004 7:44:33 AM PDT by Ghengis
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To: dead

.6% of the American population? Innumeracy has spread to Australia.


43 posted on 10/28/2004 7:45:37 AM PDT by Meldrim
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To: dead
I don't agree with everything, but I believe he is basically correct in that without the South and its values, this country would pretty much be a valueless, amoral, socialist hellhole filled with effete Frenchman-wannbees, Daddy-hating Metrosexuals, and feminist harridans on Xanax. That sense of duty and honor, central to the core of Southerners, is the only hope for America.
44 posted on 10/28/2004 7:46:57 AM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: dead

I wish we were fighting this "insurgency" in Iraq in a more Jacksonian style instead of a McNamarian style.


45 posted on 10/28/2004 7:48:59 AM PDT by jpl (How do you ask someone to be the next innocent civilian to die from a "nuisance"?)
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To: Humvee
Bush is from Mars, Kerry is from Uranus.

8-) We have a winner!

46 posted on 10/28/2004 7:49:07 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Corin Stormhands
What "academia" fails to realize is that we Scots-Irish are really the Illuminati...

LOL! Can there be two winners?

47 posted on 10/28/2004 7:50:17 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dead
You'll not find a more cluelessly condescending article on this fine day.

The day is young, dead.

48 posted on 10/28/2004 7:50:57 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: dead
"For the first Jacksonian rule of war is that wars must be fought with all available force," writes Mead. "The use of limited force is deeply repugnant. Jacksonians see war as a switch that is either 'on' or 'off'.

Killing flies with a sledgehammer.

It's a good thing.

So9

49 posted on 10/28/2004 7:51:31 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: jpl

More of a Sherman or Chesty Puller style.


50 posted on 10/28/2004 7:53:20 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Ghengis
"Those who still carry that spirit, will get our backs up when we or our people are violated."

We Hill Billys have 10/22s in our gun safes.

Aussies have buried theirs.

51 posted on 10/28/2004 7:54:26 AM PDT by TYVets (First and Last rule when interpreting a Poll, who paid for it?)
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To: dead
He is trying to paint noble and brave men who fight and die for this country as moronic cannon fodder no smarter or more understanding of the reasons for the war than the horses that die beside them.

he tried, and failed.......miserably in my opinion.

52 posted on 10/28/2004 7:55:28 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Humvee
Bush is from Mars, Kerry is from Uranus.

HILLARIOUS - AND

Bush is from Mars, Kerry speaks from his Anus.

53 posted on 10/28/2004 7:55:57 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

This Aussie seems to understand is that that heart and soul of this nation are in the Scots-Irish traditions (I'm one: last name start with the Irish "Mc" but is pronounced "mac"). We are the nonhyphenated Americans. I have ancestors who fought in the Revolution and on both sides of the Civil War. He does have the Europeans view of us down part. My British boss looks at me after describing my heritage and declared me a red-neck.


54 posted on 10/28/2004 7:57:07 AM PDT by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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To: dead

I understand he has no respect for us.

But he admits who has always done most of the fighting and dying.

Listen to any Dem and they will have you believe it's minorities....which is the complete opposite of the truth.

I linked an old USA Today article on this above in the thread.


55 posted on 10/28/2004 7:59:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (The only thing we share with collectivists and ragheads is death.)
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To: dead

Mr. Hartcher can kiss my Scott-Irish, German, Cherokee grits.



56 posted on 10/28/2004 7:59:33 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (#40)
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To: dead
Two things suggest themselves to me.

First, not all "English-Americans" (a hyphenated identity at last!) were or are "aristocratic." I'm a typical Bible-Belt redneck, but if I have any Scots-Irish blood at all I'm unaware of it. Of course, the Scots-Irish were mostly lowland Protestant Anglo-Scots (since the Angles were in Scotland before the Gaelic Scots were!), so I suppose it's theoretically possible. But as close as I can figure, I'm as lilly-English as it's possible to be. Not even a dash of Celt to add flavor.

Secondly, I am again reminded of the similarities between the so-called "Bible-thumping white trash" (and before anyone gets mad, I number myself among that population) and their supposedly polar opposites, Black Americans. The food is the same ("soul food" when eaten by Blacks, but "the food of fascism" [I suppose] when eaten by poor whites), the dialect is very similar (both preserving obsolete British Islands dialects [yes, including "ebonics"]), both subscribe to the same Biblical literalism (as do I, only more so), and even the violence of the ghetto culture is a mirror of the code o' hills or the duels of honor between Southern aristocrats. Yet of course these two groups are presumed to have nothing in common, each in need of "protection" from the other by politicians who ridicule in the other group what they praise in their own.

I am at a loss to understand the uncritical embrace of contemporary political leftism (homosexuality, abortion, evolution, G-dless moral/ethical systems) by this large and still largely rural and Fundamentalist community. But for whatever even the most "reactionary" Black preacher or layman seems to feel completely unthreatened by the Left (whose ridicule they have never felt). Will that ridicule ever be turned against them? Will they ever cease to be the "noble savages" of our contemprary rationalist Rousseaus? It's interesting, but it could be that the presence of the large community of unregenerate "hillbillies" is the only thing standing between the Black community and the hatred and enmity of their "friends" on the Left. Does anyone out there really believe that if the Left succeeded in turning every poor white into a rationalist intellectual it would have any further need of its "gentlemen's agreement" with Black Fundamentalism?

Who knows? Maybe the Left would actually invoke the resentment of the old double standard to turn the now leftist "crackers" into their shock troops against the only remaining Biblical Fundamentalists--the new "patter rollers."

57 posted on 10/28/2004 8:01:25 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines Conservatism.)
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To: Humvee
Bush is from Mars, Kerry is from Uranus.

That sums it up. LOL.

58 posted on 10/28/2004 8:02:45 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: AnAmericanMother

MacAuslan? Never heard of them, what sort of books are they? Read and enjoyed all the Flashman books tho'.
A sci-fi author whose name escapes me refers to some of the W. Va. heroes of his 1632 series of books as "Hill-billy hard-*sses", much as this writer describes them.


59 posted on 10/28/2004 8:05:58 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: Corin Stormhands
What "academia" fails to realize is that we Scots-Irish are really the Illuminati...

LOL!!!

Hey, I head the Learned Elders of Zion. What say we merge so that we may all the quicker realize the goals of Our Diabolical Conspiracy?

60 posted on 10/28/2004 8:07:21 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines Conservatism.)
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