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The Al Qaqaa complex in Yousefiya, Iraq. 'We were still in a fight.' |
Posted on 10/27/2004 4:04:25 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
The first U.S. military units to reach the Al-Qaqaa military installation south of Baghdad after the invasion of Iraq did not have orders to search for some 350 tons of explosives that are now said to be missing from the site.
"We were still in a fight," said the commander of the U.S. military unit that was first to arrive in the area, in an interview with CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin, confirming that they did not search the bunkers at the site for explosives, and did not secure the site against looters.
"Our focus was killing bad guys," he continued, adding that he would have needed four times as many troops to search and secure all the ammo dumps his troops came across during the push into Iraq.
A special unit known as Task Force 75 finally searched the compound seven weeks later and found no sign of the explosives, which experts have said had the potential to be used either conventionally or to trigger nuclear weapons.
And while their whereabouts remains a matter under investigation, David Kay - who once headed up the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - says traces of the same type of explosives were found after a bombing this year outside a mosque in Najaf.
The White House says the unit responsible for searching for weapons of mass destruction has been directed to find out what happened.
Charles Duelfer, the head of that unit, told CBS News Tuesday that he has not received any orders to go looking for the missing explosives and doesn't think he should.
"It's hard for me to get that worked up about it," said Duelfer, in a phone interview from Baghdad, noting that Iraq is awash in hundreds of thousands of tons of explosives.
Duelfer also said U.N. weapons inspectors recommended in 1995 that the high explosives be destroyed because of their potential use in a nuclear weapons program.
The International Atomic Energy Agency instead ordered the explosives stored in sealed bunkers 30 miles south of the Iraqi capital. The last time the IAEA verified that the bunkers were still sealed was in March of last year, about a month before the first U.S. troops moved into the complex as they pushed toward Baghdad.
Pentagon officials contend the explosives could have been spirited away by the Iraqis before u.s. troops ever got there. Other officials, including Delfer, blame looters and the chaos that following the fall of Baghdad.
When troops from the 101st Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade arrived at the Al-Qaqaa base a day or so after other coalition troops seized Baghdad on April 9, 2003, there were already looters throughout the facility, Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, deputy public affairs officer for the unit, told The Associated Press.
The soldiers "secured the area they were in and looked in a limited amount of bunkers to ensure chemical weapons were not present," said Wellman, in an e-mail message to The Associated Press. "Bombs were found but not chemical weapons in that immediate area. Orders were not given from higher to search or to secure the facility or to search for HE type munitions, as they (high-explosive weapons) were everywhere in Iraq."
The 101st Airborne was apparently at least the second military unit to arrive at Al-Qaqaa after the U.S. led invasion began. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told The Washington Post that the 3rd Infantry Division reached the site around April 3, fought with Iraq forces and occupied the site. They left after two days, headed for Baghdad.
AP Correspondent Chris Tomlinson, who was embedded with the 3rd Infantry but didn't go to Al-Qaqaa, described the search of Iraqi military facilities south of Baghdad as brief, cursory missions to seek out hostile troops, not to inventory or secure weapons stockpiles. One task force, he said, searched four Iraqi military bases in a single day, meeting no resistance and finding only abandoned buildings, some containing weapons and ammunition.
The enormous size of the bases, the rapid pace of the advance on Baghdad and the limited number of troops involved, made it impossible for U.S. commanders to allocate any soldiers to guard any of the facilities after making a check, Tomlinson said.
The disappearance of the explosives was first reported in Monday's New York Times and has subsequently become a heated issue in the U.S. presidential campaign, with Vice President Dick Cheney questioning on Tuesday whether the explosives were still at the facility when U.S. troops arrived. The Kerry campaign has called the disappearance the latest in a "tragic series of blunders" by the Bush administration.
Two weeks ago, Iraq's Ministry of Science and Technology told the International Atomic Energy Agency that the explosives had vanished from the former military installation as a result of "theft and looting ... due to lack of security." The ministry's letter said the explosives were stolen sometime after coalition forces took control of Baghdad on April 9, 2003.
The disappearance, which the U.N. nuclear agency reported to the Security Council on Monday, has raised questions about why the United States didn't do more to secure the facility and failed to allow full international inspections to resume after the March 2003 invasion.
On Tuesday, Russia, citing the disappearance, called on the U.N. Security Council to discuss the return of U.N. weapons inspectors to Iraq. But the United States said American inspectors were investigating the loss and that there was no need for U.N. experts to return.
The Al-Qaqaa explosives included HMX and RDX, key components in plastic explosives, which insurgents in Iraq have used in repeated bomb attacks on U.S.-led multinational forces and Iraqi police and national guardsmen. But HMX is also a "dual use" substance powerful enough to ignite the fissile material in an atomic bomb and set off a nuclear chain reaction.
Lt. Gen. William Boykin, the Pentagon's deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence, said that on May 27, 2003, a U.S. military team specifically looking for weapons went to the site but did not find anything with IAEA stickers on it.
The Pentagon would not say whether it had informed the IAEA that the conventional explosives were not where they were supposed to be. Boykin said that the Pentagon was investigating whether the information was handed on to anyone else at the time.
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The Al Qaqaa complex in Yousefiya, Iraq. 'We were still in a fight.' |
Just 6 Days Until November 2nd, 2004 - DOWN TO THE WIRE!
US Helicopters and Jets flew all over Iraq back and forth between Iraq and Kuwait..
It would take 37 big rigs to move this stuff..
THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY INSURGENTS WOULD SNEAK THAT STUFF OUT, AND KARL ROVE IS SITTING ON HIS HANDS!
But HMX is also a "dual use" substance powerful enough to ignite the fissile material in an atomic bomb and set off a nuclear chain reaction.
The fissile material does not "ignite". The explosives drive together or compress the material to the point where fission occurs. Obtaining suitable explosives to make this happen is one of the easiest steps in actually constructing a nuclear bomb.
The "dual use" nature of these explosives is a non-issue.
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I never cared much for Karl Rove's 'excellent advisory skills' either.
He's busy watching the propeller spinning on your hat.
Your point is...?
The International Atomic Energy Agency instead ordered the explosives stored in sealed bunkers 30 miles south of the Iraqi capital. The last time the IAEA verified that the bunkers were still sealed was in March of last year, about a month before the first U.S. troops moved into the complex as they pushed toward Baghdad.
So the IAEA is responsible for the explosives not being destroyed in the first place.
Yah, then sanctions were working. The UN had everything under control. You betcha.
Actually the process you are talking about is called fusion not fission. The compacting of material until it combines on a molecular level is nuclear fusion.
fission is the spiting of the molecules which is a entirely different process and is in essence "ignited"
This is getting funnier and funnier. If this stuff was so important that we should have "guarded" it, then why did the UN inspectors leave it in place and not destroy it?
It would have been interesting to see where most of those EX were manufactured.
France? Russia?
I am new and do not know how to post links but on Powerlineblog they have a CBS report from April 3, 2003 saying the Army DID search pretty thoroughly. Also, on Kerryspot there are emails from soldiers who were there who said they searched and did not find the explosives, and they knew ahead of time what to look for.
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Hans Blix will tell us as soon as Bill Clinton goes in as Kofir's replacement.
After tiresome days of passive defense by the GOP brain trust, I will disown this party if it doesn't produce Zarqawi within 48 hours.
I only hope.
"It would take 37 big rigs to move this stuff..
"THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY INSURGENTS WOULD SNEAK THAT STUFF OUT, AND KARL ROVE IS SITTING ON HIS HANDS!"
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I have no clue as to what you meant by these comments.
Iraq is one hell of a large piece of real estate. There were 400,000 Ton's of explosives, stored in every town, in every conceiveable location, including hospitals, Mosques, schools, and occasionally, on a military base. We secured and/or destroyed most of it. The terrorists are now using munitions we may have missed, or that may have been buried in caches or moved to Syria before the war.
Our soldiers under the leadership of President Bush won two wars in unheard of time, with unheard of - low casualities, U.S., and Iraqi. That anyone would question the conduct of our soldiers DURING that war is outrageous. They were primarily engaged in KILLING the enemy, not bookkeeping.
And, that is exactly what Kerry and company are doing. The one's who would not fight, who would not commit to defend this country, are criticizing the President who put it all on the line to defend America, who had nothing gain by going to war personally or politically, and by inference, they are directly attacking the U.S. Commanders and their troops during a time of war!!
Traitorous! Shameful!
Karl Rove has nothing to do with this. The fact that we had aircraft over Iraq had nothing to do with this. More than likely, this material was moved before the war started, because this base was more vulnerable than most (i.e. outside of Bagdad, and Sadam's direct control). Moving 37 rigs of material around BEFORE the war would have been no big deal for the Iraqis.
Just unbelieveable, what Kerry will do to get elected!
SFS
Read your FR mail please.
The only thing I can possibly think of, is if they think Rush, Sean, etc's (talk radio) audience is made up of enough people to get the message out.
For all we know the UN helped move this stuff and is now selling it to the Palestinians & Chechyns. Oil For Food, Arms for Oil...Koffi's the go-to guy for pukes, punks and third-rate potentates.
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