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Fear of Civil War in Israel
Maariv Israel ^

Posted on 10/27/2004 2:42:46 AM PDT by BlackJack

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I never heard of this. No coverage in the US media of the split between orthodox and secular.
1 posted on 10/27/2004 2:42:46 AM PDT by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack

So, if I understand this, the author is arguing that the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the near east, and specifically the disputed territories, is to be considered permanent and nonreversible.

Any Israelis with an urge to kick out the Arabs in the disputed territories, however, is beyond the pale.


2 posted on 10/27/2004 2:50:43 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: BlackJack
Possible, but isn't civil war a possibility within any group of people? Preparation does not mean it will happen.
3 posted on 10/27/2004 2:52:41 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
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To: BlackJack

Well, your media already have a HUGE story to cover, with the election taking place in just a few days. From what I've seen on TV, the Likud in general and Sharon in particular may have painted themselves in a very, very difficult corner.

As for real civil war, I think it's an exaggeration. The Israelis have enough enemies outside their borders to invite chaos by full-scale civil war. But the country could be in for its biggest political crisis ever, and this time whatever the Palis do will bring fuel to the fire.


4 posted on 10/27/2004 2:54:49 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend ( Cursum Perficio)
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To: BlackJack

Interesting article. Good post.


5 posted on 10/27/2004 2:59:21 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: SJackson

ping


6 posted on 10/27/2004 3:08:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: BlackJack

Yeeesh.... as if we didn't have enough on our plate to worry about...


7 posted on 10/27/2004 3:29:46 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: Alouette

Ping. I'm guessing this is from a source that is non-othordox...


8 posted on 10/27/2004 4:17:10 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: BlackJack

I don't think the withdrawl from Gaza will be enough to prompt a civil war.

It will, however, scar the country. And if any future government attempts to do the same in the much larger and populated West Bank, then it could lead to an actual civil war.

I'm not so sure that would be a bad thing, because it wouldn't nessissarily be very violent.

The settlers, and their supporters, could leave the army, with their weapons, and say "we will defend ourselves".

I doubt that the State of Israel will fight, as the North did in the American Civil War, to keep the settlers (the equivilant to the South) in the country. The main difference being the North didn't want to lose the land and population of the South. Israel wants to give up the West Bank anyways, and thus wouldn't fight to keep it, just to give it away later.


9 posted on 10/27/2004 5:23:11 AM PDT by solmar_israel (Break the alliance with Old Europe)
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To: gobucks

Uri Avnery is a staple of the Israeli far left, one of the founders of the peace (at any cost) movement.


10 posted on 10/27/2004 5:47:34 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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11 posted on 10/27/2004 5:47:58 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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But wouldn't that mean having two weaker Jewish nations where there once was a single strong one ? The settlers can take their personal weapons, but they won't have artillery guns, tanks, fighter-bombers, reconnaissance drones, all of which they'll need as they'll face an even deadlier threat (comparatively) from their Arab neighbors.


12 posted on 10/27/2004 5:51:12 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend ( Cursum Perficio)
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The seeds of the civil war were sown when the first settlement was put up in the occupied territories.

The seeds of civil war have been sown by those Israelis who've agreed to and supported partition.

13 posted on 10/27/2004 5:56:06 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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As Karl Marx observed...

Avnery is a well known old idiot. Not just an old idiot, but loony left old idiot. A Marxist, in other words. What else would an old Marxist idiot dream of, if not a revolution and a civil war?

14 posted on 10/27/2004 6:02:39 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: BlackJack

Well given that the article is by Uri Avnery...


15 posted on 10/27/2004 6:05:48 AM PDT by Pitiricus
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Uri Avnery is an old Stalinist who makes Noam Chomsky look like a Republican. Last time he popped up, he was in front of the Muqata as Arafat's "Human Shield."

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16 posted on 10/27/2004 6:10:20 AM PDT by Alouette (http://www.jewsforgeorge.com)
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To: BlackJack
Jennifer Grefien(sp) on Brit Hume's show last night did a good wrap up of the vote to pull out of Gaza.

They showed some graffiti sprayed recently that said (in Hebrew)"We killed Rabin we'll kill Sharon"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136737,00.html

17 posted on 10/27/2004 6:14:19 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: SJackson

Thanks.


18 posted on 10/27/2004 6:19:37 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: OXENinFLA

"We killed Rabin we'll kill Sharon"

Those who write graffiti like this are just murderous scum. The way to remove an elected leader is to hold another election and elect someone else, not to murder someone for his political deeds.


19 posted on 10/27/2004 7:21:58 AM PDT by FreeReporting (A middle of the road Israeli.)
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To: BlackJack

Should've had a barf alert warning in the title. This article is soooooo LEFT that I'm surprised it didn't have the name PERES written under it, sheesh. Yes, all evils in Israel are because of the settlers. Kill them all, and then we will have peace with those wonderful, innocent, palestinians. Yeah, right.


20 posted on 10/27/2004 7:23:40 AM PDT by Reborn
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