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Kerry Voted To BAN Almost ALL COMMON Hunting Ammo as "Cop Killer Bullets". Coming Again?
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Posted on 10/26/2004 8:24:09 AM PDT by InfantryMarine

After a speech that he made in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, he told a group of hunters and fishermen:

I've been a fisherman since I was about three years old, four years old. Flung my first line out with my dad. I've been a hunter since I was about 12 years old, and I went through the whole progression, you know, BB gun to .22s to .30-30, you name it. (Source) Yet in March of this year, Kerry threw his support behind a Senate amendment (S.AMDT.2619, attached to S.1805) proposed by Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy of Massachusetts that could have, and still has the potential, to end deer/big game hunting nationwide. Yes, not just statewide but nationwide.

Senator Kennedy's amendment called for the ban of all ammunition that can penetrate Class I and II body armor commonly worn by police officers. He calls it getting "'cop-killer' bullets off the street." If this amendmant had passed, with candidate Kerry's support, we would no longer be able to purchase .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, or even our beloved .30-30 Winchester ammunition for yearly deer hunting trips. It doesn't take a ballistics expert to know that the body armor is bullet resistant, not bullet proof, and the only rifle ammunition that will not defeat Class I or II body armor is the .22 Long Rifle, which is not legal for any medium/big game hunting in my home state of Michigan. Senator Kennedy specifically mentions the .30-30 round as being particularly bad. How many of us use a Marlin or Winchester Model 94 chambered in .30-30 as our deer rifles?

If Senator Kerry is elected this Fall, you can be sure that this amendment will come up again and it would then have Presidential support.

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"If this amendment had passed, with candidate Kerry's support, we would no longer be able to purchase .308 Winchester,30-06 Springfield, or even our beloved. 30-30 Winchester or for yearly deer hunting trips."

Sportsmen's Alert Trust what he says for the cameras, or how he votes on the Hill? Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry has recently been campaigning in a number of swing states hoping to draw support from independent voters for his White House bid this Fall.

After a speech that he made in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, he told a group of hunters and fishermen:

I've been a fisherman since I was about three years old, four years old. Flung my first line out with my dad. I've been a hunter since I was about 12 years old, and I went through the whole progression, you know, BB gun to .22s to .30-30, you name it. (Source) Yet in March of this year, Kerry threw his support behind a Senate amendment (S.AMDT.2619, attached to S.1805) proposed by Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy of Massachusetts that could have, and still has the potential, to end deer/big game hunting nationwide. Yes, not just statewide but nationwide.

Senator Kennedy's amendment called for the ban of all ammunition that can penetrate Class I and II body armor commonly worn by police officers. He calls it getting "'cop-killer' bullets off the street." He proposes that a standard be set by performance tests of all ammunition and those that defeat the body armor would be banned. If this amendmant had passed, with candidate Kerry's support, we would no longer be able to purchase .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, or even our beloved .30-30 Winchester ammunition for yearly deer hunting trips. It doesn't take a ballistics expert to know that the body armor is bullet resistant, not bullet proof, and the only rifle ammunition that will not defeat Class I or II body armor is the .22 Long Rifle, which is not legal for any medium/big game hunting in my home state of Michigan. Senator Kennedy specifically mentions the .30-30 round as being particularly bad. How many of us use a Marlin or Winchester Model 94 chambered in .30-30 as our deer rifles?

Under Senator Kennedy's amendment, one of our long standing sporting traditions would cease to exist. The historic deer hunting rifles like the Remington Model 700, Winchester Model 70, and the Winchester Model 94, that have been passed down from Grandfather to Grandson, Father to Son or Daughter, will be nothing more than useless show pieces.

Senator Kerry appears to adhere to the "Say-Anything-As-Long-As-It-Gets-Me-Elected" campaign philosophy. I find it ironic and appalling that he would use the .30-30 in a positive light in his bid for election, when five months ago, he maligned it with his support for this amendment fathered by his mentor, Senator Kennedy.

If Senator Kerry is elected this Fall, you can be sure that this amendment will come up again and it would then have Presidential support.

I am not a big fan of President Bush but he has stayed the course in his decisions and is doing the best he can. I also feel much better supporting a leader who "sticks to his guns" and whose decisions aren't cynically determined by which way the political wind is blowing.

1 posted on 10/26/2004 8:24:09 AM PDT by InfantryMarine
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2 posted on 10/26/2004 8:25:14 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: InfantryMarine

This is from Sportsmen FOR Kerry/Edwards? Sounds like they may be having second thoughts.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 8:28:31 AM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: InfantryMarine

Kerry will absolutely back any gun control legislation, just look at his record. He has an "F" rating with the NRA. If he is elected you can kiss your hunting days goodbye.


4 posted on 10/26/2004 8:39:10 AM PDT by eyrish69
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To: TX Bluebonnet

You missed the '?'. Kerry would call it a nuance. I call it a question mark.


5 posted on 10/26/2004 8:39:41 AM PDT by ColoradoJeff
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To: InfantryMarine

Kerry is rated a well-deserved "F" by the NRA and "0%" by Gun Owners of America. He gets a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign, formerly Handgun Control, Inc., and by the rabid PETA. This should tell hunters and gun owners everything they need to know about the Massachusetts liberal.


6 posted on 10/26/2004 8:44:36 AM PDT by hyperpoly8 (Illegitimati Non Carborundum)
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To: TX Bluebonnet

I don't think so. I went to the site and they have downloads of Stolen Honor, etc.

Now really, who would ever believe that the most liberal "man" in the Senate (I have a hard time calling him a man) would ever give a care about 2nd amendment rights?

Not this boy. Kerry is NOT like a box of chocolates. You know exactly what you're gonna get. SCREWED!


7 posted on 10/26/2004 8:45:43 AM PDT by planekT
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To: hyperpoly8

I may be under a mistaken inpression, but isn't the cross-sectional area of a 22LR small enough to allow penetration in a I or II level body armor?

Enquiring minds want to know!

DK

How about my 22 MAG?

I always wanted to test that!!!


8 posted on 10/26/2004 8:48:41 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: eyrish69

Not only can you kiss your hunting days goodbye - in a couple of years with some cleverly crafted "gun shooting crises" devised by Kerry and trumpeted day after day by his ridiculous sycopants in the media, you can kiss the right to OWN a firearm goodbye, as well!

Then, all the folks who bought his stage crafted hunter "man of the people" pose will wonder what the heck just happened to them as the newly created Bureau of Firearms Control agents arrive to take their legally owned guns?


9 posted on 10/26/2004 9:14:54 AM PDT by Barnstormer
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