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Minister Lapid Warns Rabbis: Patience is Thin (Megalomaniac Fascist Alert)
Israel National News (Arutz 7) ^ | Oct. 24, 2004

Posted on 10/24/2004 10:05:53 AM PDT by Alouette

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Tommy Lapid belongs in an insane asylum, not the Knesset.
1 posted on 10/24/2004 10:05:54 AM PDT by Alouette
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I ask all FReepers to pray for the safety of my son in the IDF, who is on duty in the Jordan Valley.

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2 posted on 10/24/2004 10:06:15 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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Actually he is right and these idiot rabbis are wrong... But I knew that!

To think that these IDIOTS not only get a deferment from the army but put soldiers in harm's way make my blood nboil...

No deferment for the religious! All go to the army!

No bachurim Yeshivot... All must serve!


3 posted on 10/24/2004 10:13:11 AM PDT by Pitiricus
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Does this religious Jew look like he is shirking his military duty?

4 posted on 10/24/2004 10:16:38 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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Tommy Lapid belongs in an insane asylum, not the Knesset.

Perhaps. But that doesn't make him any less right.

How would we react if the Mormon Church, to pose an unrealistic hypothetical, came out with a position that any Mormon ordered to serve in Iraq must refuse to do so?

To be fair, the article does not specifically state whether the rabbis called on the soldiers to refuse orders or to resist those orders violently. In the US, at least, the first would probably be considered a legitimate freedom of speech issue. The second would not be (although the ACLU would try to spin it that way).

5 posted on 10/24/2004 10:16:48 AM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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Prayers for your son, Alouette.

(Very cute baby. Is that your grandchild?)


6 posted on 10/24/2004 10:18:30 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (No one notices the water until the well runs dry.)
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To: Restorer

About two years ago there was a movement among the leftist soldiers refusing to serve "in the occupied territories." All the leftist Israeli media cheered them as conscientious "moral" heroes. No one stood up in the Knesset and demanded that these leftist "refusers" and their leaders should be court-martialed or imprisoned.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

I thought that the right of refusing to carry out orders that are morally wrong was established during the Nuremburg trials.


7 posted on 10/24/2004 10:21:11 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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Oh and please explain how it is morally wrong to evict the settlers. Your bias is breathtaking. Your logic bankrupt.


9 posted on 10/24/2004 10:27:47 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: Restorer

I spoke to my son last night and asked him what he would do if his unit was ordered to participate in the Gaza expulsion. He told me that his officers have requested (through proper military channels) that his unit be assigned to another duty post and therefore avoid being placed in this situation.


10 posted on 10/24/2004 10:30:15 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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please explain how it is morally wrong to evict the settlers.

Please explain how it is morally right.

11 posted on 10/24/2004 10:31:05 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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Lets see, evicting settlers = the crimes at Nuremberg, therefore anyone who carries out the evictions is equal to a war criminal guilty of murder and genocide. Great analogy Al, how convincing! Very smart.


12 posted on 10/24/2004 10:34:24 AM PDT by US admirer
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You didn't explain how expelling people from communities where they have lived for 30 years so that Gaza can be "Jew-free" is morally right. All you did was insult me.


13 posted on 10/24/2004 10:36:39 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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All I did was point out the wisdom of your comments.

I tell you what, when you learn to not answer a question with a question (and then have the temerity to admonish another for not answering a question) I'll answer you. OK Al?


14 posted on 10/24/2004 10:40:36 AM PDT by US admirer
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Another prophecy of R. Meir Kahane coming true.

To our sorrow.

15 posted on 10/24/2004 10:46:41 AM PDT by Nachum (Kerry spells "Fine Dining")
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Ethnic cleansing is a war crime.


16 posted on 10/24/2004 10:48:01 AM PDT by Alouette (Back from vacation, tanned, rested, and ready!)
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To: Alouette

How do the claims by the Palestinians, against the Isreali government and the fanatical Jews in the settlements, support your argument?


17 posted on 10/24/2004 10:51:18 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: Alouette
Politics in Israel must be a lot like herding cats. Or perhaps, like a family reunion where somebody's always mad at somebody else.

Too many smart people there. They need to get dumbed down with TV and Nintendo so that they are as docile as we are.

18 posted on 10/24/2004 10:54:46 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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How do the claims by the Palestinians, against the Isreali government and the fanatical Jews in the settlements, support your argument?

That should be obvious. The "palestinians" have no legtitimate claims. They fought three wars and lost them all. Losers don't make "claims".
As for the "fanatical" Jews? They're Israeli citizens. They are citizens of the prevaling party in the wars. Nothing "fanatical" about their claims.

What's to support? The obvious?

19 posted on 10/24/2004 11:03:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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Adonai, save those who serve You, everywhere. Amen.

Great pic, A. Be proud. Stay strong, ever faithful.

20 posted on 10/24/2004 11:08:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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