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To: appalachian_dweller
Terrorism, the terrorism that threatens you and I (and every other infidel), DOES begin and end with islam.

Our government strongly disagrees. The federal government's definition of terrorism does not even mention the word Islam. The WoT will not end with Islam, or any other single faction, nation or cause. It is a method, methods cannot be killed. That is what we discussing to begin with and what is most important to constitutionally protected freedoms, the end of the WoT.

Your analogy pertains to us arming Israel.

.... and propping up the House of Saud against the wishes of the local popultion, but lets talk about Israel first.

Well, name one war Israel has STARTED. Just ONE.

Can't think of any. And it doesn't matter because of one tiny fact that a lot of people forget: Israel is not part of the United States. I'm not willing to sacrifice the liberty of this country to ensure their security. They are a sovereign nation, and they should stand on their own feet.

Before I get 100 flames for this post and maybe even Zotted by the mods, let me state I hold this position for all foreign countries.

48 posted on 10/25/2004 1:18:51 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: freeeee
Our gov't has it's head up it's butt. We give money to every country on this planet and then get kicked in the teeth for it. How many millions of $$$ have we wasted on Palestinian Authority (which is nothing more then a terrorist factory)? Have you seen the crap these monsters are teaching their kids? It's unreal and scary.

Israel is the ONLY democracy in the ME and we need to support it. If it weren't for Israel, we'd have had to take on a nuclear armed Iraq or let them keep Kuwait. Israel (for the most part) watches our back and we better be watching hers. The fact that Israel has not started any wars IS significant. It proves they are a peaceful nation and as such deserve our support.

On Saudi Arabia, their leaders are two faced liars and we should not be supporting that country. In fact, that whole country should be a radioactive pile of rubble.

To sum this up:
muslims hate us and want us dead - I don't care why
I hate muslims and want them all dead - they don't care why

Simple school yard fight rules apply, whoever puts his opponent down first wins. Problem is, we're playing for keeps.

We have two choices: fight for die. It really is that simple. Kill them before they kill us.

Allowing possible terrorists to run around in our back yard is not only stupid, it's suicidal.

The Bill of Rights applies to LOYAL CITIZENS ONLY.

'Nuff said.
49 posted on 10/25/2004 2:03:20 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: SEVERE {due to Ramadan} -- Basic list of survival gear @ my FR Homepage)
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