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Power line rerouted after electric debate
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/22/4 | Carrie Peyton Dahlberg

Posted on 10/22/2004 7:54:53 AM PDT by SmithL

Seven people who usually devote their public service hours to the stolid realities of electricity were drawn Thursday morning into a passionate exploration of beauty, poverty and class.

Should one neighborhood, peopled with articulate and well-off homeowners, have a proposed power line rerouted when equally unsightly lines brand other neighborhoods?

The answer, for four of the seven directors of Sacramento Municipal Utility District, was "yes, but ... ."

They argued the debate was not really about poverty at all, only about using good judgment and being responsive to the community.

The suggestion that affluence had anything to do with Thursday's 4-3 vote to reroute a high-voltage line is "ridiculous," SMUD director Susan Patterson said after the meeting.

It is inappropriate, several directors said, to compare altering the route of a still-unbuilt line to failed bids to move existing, perfectly serviceable overhead lines underground.

The dissenters wouldn't hear it.

"I don't believe that we moved any power poles for ... blind people and people in wheelchairs" facing tough access to a Kmart store, said director Linda Davis.

"I've heard it argued that 60 feet, 90 feet, 120 feet are too close to new and expensive homes" because "these homeowners might get a glimpse of an ugly wire," said director Larry Carr.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: powerplay

1 posted on 10/22/2004 7:54:53 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Seven people who usually devote their public service hours to the stolid realities of electricity were drawn Thursday morning into a passionate exploration of beauty, poverty and class.

Anyone else start snoring right about here?

2 posted on 10/22/2004 7:59:43 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: SmithL

Why don't they just bury the power lines?


3 posted on 10/22/2004 8:05:31 AM PDT by nascartex
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To: SmithL; Ernest_at_the_Beach; snopercod; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; randita
In some environmental circles this issue is called "social justice." The concept is that the poor live where most of the chemical, air, visual pollution from society is located and that the rich use wealth and racism to insure that projects with negative impacts are sited in the amongst those in society with no power.

I attended some EPA Air Quality seminars during the Clinton years, where EPA had grant money available for minority groups and the poor to hire environmental lawyers and experts to participate on their behalf on various projects in the name of social justice.

Kind of interesting article. And a nice diversion from the election politics. Thanks.

4 posted on 10/22/2004 8:07:36 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357; Carry_Okie

Sorry I knew I forgot somebody


5 posted on 10/22/2004 8:08:32 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357

We have had some working day outages due to some minor re routeing of power lines in our area.

Yesterday one of the Watermelon Enviral Nattering Nannies who lives up the hill walked down the hill during the outage. I was getting our mail, when she and her husband stopped by to complain.

I told her that I was surprised that a charter member in the Sierra Club and the leader of no new roads and growth still used electricity. Her husband moaned and grinned, and she went off in her usual huff after one of my remarks.


6 posted on 10/22/2004 8:21:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: nascartex

Too expensive...Plus the corona effect from transmission lines can extend outward a fair ways with higher voltages...


7 posted on 10/22/2004 8:25:41 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Hmmm.. interesting. How much can they extend safely? What kind of voltage is needed to NOT have that effect?


8 posted on 10/22/2004 8:27:34 AM PDT by nascartex
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To: Grampa Dave

LOL, you nailed them good!


9 posted on 10/22/2004 9:23:45 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Robert357

Thanks for the ping.


10 posted on 10/22/2004 9:24:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just the Nattering Granny Enviral Watermelon whackoo got nailed.

I feel sorry for her husband. For close to 30 years, I have watched him helplessly roll his eyes when she mutters one of her mantras. He grins when she isn't looking when I take her mantras and turn them against her.


11 posted on 10/22/2004 9:28:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: nascartex

ZERO...

There is a magnetic field formed around any conductor that has electrons flowing through it. Underground transmission cable are very expensive and have extensive shielding to reduce corona effect. They also require more testing and maintenance. Some lines require active cooling and have oil pumped through them, another concern that is overrated by enviroMENTALists...

It is just cheaper and easier to hang the wire between poles, with the wires in the outside air no active cooling is required.

MD


12 posted on 11/01/2004 10:09:57 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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