Posted on 10/21/2004 7:43:59 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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Very sobering. With all the anti-Bush leaks that keep coming out of the CIA, I would say they have already been hijacked and have been run by anti-US elements for years.
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I think this is an ad for a book.
Even so, I can believe what they claim.
The Soviets knew they can't destroy us externally, so they were infiltrating us and were working on it internally.
"James Baker" - ? Well that explains the debates - the world just keeps getting smaller - same people keep being used whenever necessary -
From the post: "The Task Force's recommendations were predictable. Terrorism was redefined so as to exclude Soviet-sponsored revolutionaries. Instead, various potential anti-Communists were labeled as real or potential terrorists-including Soviet citizens who hijack planes to try to escape their walled-off dictatorship. The PLO-orchestrated intifadeh was specifically defined as non-terrorist, whereas "Israeli extremists" were identified as terrorists.14 Under the category of "religious extremism," the Task Force labeled not only "Muslim fundamentalists" but also Lebanese Christians and "Jewish extremists" as terrorist, while the PLO was never suggested as being terrorist. Indeed, the Task Force recommended that Middle East terrorism be solved by pressuring Israel to make concessions at the negotiating table.15 In addition, the news media has already hinted that Christians in the United States might also be labeled potential terrorists for opposing abortion. "
PLO - not terrorist - ? (No wonder the nations protect Arafat so much-he's a good guy in their eyes) - And Pressure on Israel(this is being done today) - Christians are potential terrorist - ? Is this why the cross and Christians are under attack in the U.S. Sure is some plan our government and Russia have going -
Explains a lot though -
An ad for a book with footnotes???
Insight? Thoughts?
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I personally think that McCarthy was right.
Today, the "left-over" communists who have infiltrated the CIA, the State Department, not to mention the Democratic Party are continuing to work towards the communist ideals of world government and destroying the US. The Democrats have become their useful idiots.
Some may be handing me a tinfoil, about now, but I read some books from former Soviet and other E. European agents, who outlines some of this strategy in detail.
In 1989 edition of the National Drug Control Strategy, President Bush made it official:
'We must be prepared to share our knowledge and our concern with the Soviet Union and Eastern European nations and be willing to engage them in cooperative counterdrug activities". (36)In this strategy document, there was no recognition of the role of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe countries in drug-trafficking and in creating the very sickness the strategy was designed to cure.
Towards the end of 1989, the DEA made a formal proposal to the Soviets for the DEA to conduct 'advanced narcotics investigations' for about 30 anti-narcotics professionals from Soviet customs, the Ministry of Interior and the KGB.
As one DEA official, Paul Higdon, explained: 'We're looking at them as policemen - these guys are cops with a mission similar to ours'. Not to be outdone, US Customs is proposing a formal information-sharing agreement, similar to the ones we have with most of our Western allies'
Hear No Evil -- Part II (FR post)
In case you've any curiosity as to why our agencies might be interested in such information-sharing agreements with the architects and primary assault team of the communist drug offensive, there is always the example of the (still communist) Chinese who've had the upper hand a while in many respects:
Throughout the 1950s, Harry Anslinger, the US Commissioner of Narcotics, worked hard to make people recognise that Communist China was the primary force responsible for narcotics trafficking (1). 'The Mafia ', he explained in response to misleading press reports, 'was not the biggest drug dealer. This was a false impression. By far the biggest drug dealer was Peking'. Anslinger provided extensive data to the United Nations and to the US Congress. He identified the Chinese government agencies that were involved, as well as numerous trafficking routes out of China through North Korea and Southeast Asia into Japan, the Philippines, Hawaii, Alaska, Mexico and the United States. He led operations to attack known distribution nets. But while he was unable to stop the flow, at least he did identify the source of the offensive: Communist China.Then, in the early 1960s, something happened. In a study of Chinese narcotics trafficking, Stefan T. Possony observed: 'Beginning in the early 1960s, the subject [Communist China's drug offensive against the United States], which originally had attracted great attention, became an 'unsubject', to paraphrase Orwell". (2)
In a detailed analysis of the problem, A. H. Stanton Candlin observed the same phenomenon, which he explained in the following terms:
'The matter was handled differently until about 1962, before which year the United States showed signs of official comprehension of the problem. Since then, the threat has apparently been concealed from the public by persons who have evidently had the desire to cultivate better relations with the Red Chinese. The Chinese are the principal miscreants in this criminal conspiracy and they have been able, of late, to obtain protection and support in unexpected quarters (3).It is, perhaps, no mere coincidence that 1962 is the year in which Harry Anslinger retired and that in 1961 the pro-China interests moved into the State Department (4). This coincidence is interesting, especially when coupled with the Soviet intelligence on the 1957 meeting of China's Central Committee, when it was decided to encourage overseas investment in China.
In 1969, President Nixon declared war on drugs [N.B. No. 3 in the Orwellian "War on a Noun" Series]. One of the first measures taken was to identify the sources of the problem. In one instance, analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency began looking at drug-trafficking emanating from Southeast Asia. Drawing on a massive amount of detail from a wide spectrum of sources, the first map was drawn of the 'Golden Triangle' - then regarded as the main source of drugs and narcotics (5).
The triangle included parts of Thailand, Burma, Laos, and, especially, Yunnan Province, China, as shown by the solid line triangle in Figure 2 [MISSING] below. The northeast tip of the triangle was located well up in Yunnan Province, near Kunn-dng. Yunnan Province was, indeed, the dominant source, both in its own right and through its control of and assistance to operations in northern Burma and Thailand. As the CIA Far East specialist who constructed the map described the position, the triangle was really a 'Golden V the apex of which was in the region where Thailand, Burma and Laos came together. Most of the area, the funnel of the V, was in Yunnan Province.
This assessment was identical to the information provided by Sejna, based on Czechoslovak and Soviet intelligence studies. He also reported that in 1960 China signed a 'Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation' with Burma, which provided China with the opportunity to operate openly in Burma. According to KGB estimates, fifty percent of the Chinese representatives in Burma were involved (officially) in the drug business in the early 1960s.
In 1970, the CIA map of the Golden Triangle was passed to the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD1, a forerunner of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA: see page 671. Months later, a new version of the map emerged from the White House. The tip of the triangle had been moved from 25 degrees north latitude in China down to 0 degrees north latitude, in Laos. The new designation is shown by the dashedline triangle in Figure 2. With a few strokes of a pen, Communist China had been effectively excluded from the Golden Triangle.
At that time, the top national-level US organisation concerned with illegal narcotics trafficking was the Ad Hoc Committee on Narcotics, chaired by Henry Kissinger. As Edward Jay Epstein observed, Kissinger evidenced little interest in the heroin problem and rarely attended committee meetings. General Alexander Haig usually chaired the meetings in Kissinger's absence. Kissinger, [Under Secretary of State Elliot] Richardson and Haig spent most of their energies dampening the enthusiasm of White House zealots to launch a new heroin crusade which might again threaten diplomatic relations with important allies (6). Certainly, the initiative towards China was one of the high-priority diplomatic initiatives at that time. Epstein also noted that after the Department of Defence began using reconnaissance planes to help identify poppy fields in Burma and Laos, Kissinger stopped the overflights of Burma specifically to avoid threatening détente with China (7).
In September 1971, the Cabinet Committee on International Narcotics Control was formed, headed by Secretary of State William P. Rogers. The committee seldom met and was quietly phased out in 1972. While in existence, it was run by Nelson Gross, a Republican from Saddle River, New Jersey, who had been defeated in his quest for a Senate seat in 1970 and who President Nixon had then appointed as senior adviser and coordinator for international narcotics matters at the State Department. In August 1972, shortly before the committee's demise, Secretary Rogers released a study which had been prepared under its auspices,
The primary producers of illicit opium identified in this report were India, Afghanistan, Turkey, Pakistan, Burma, Thailand, Laos, Mexico, Eastern Europe, North Africa and Latin America. The geographies of the Southeast Asian network as presented in the study are reproduced in Figure 3 on page 92. As can be seen, both China and North Vietnam are effectively excluded in this representation of the opium network. (8)
Moreover, the text, which specifically addresses the People's Republic of China, was quite revealing. The text explained that in February 1950, China introduced stringent controls over the production of opium poppy and the use of opiates, that the measures were strictly enforced, and that the problem of opium use had been effectively eliminated. Some small-scale illicit production might remain, the text allowed, and, along with it, 'perhaps, minor amounts of cross-border trade in the commodity (9).
However, 'there is no reliable evidence that China has either engaged in or sanctioned the illicit export of opium and its derivatives nor are there any indications of government participation in the opium trade of Southeast Asia and adjacent markets'. (10)
Similar statements were also made during the timeframe 1971-73 by the Strategic Intelligence Office of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD); for example: 'Not one investigation into heroin traffic in the area during the past two years indicates Chinese Communist involvement. In each case, the traffickers were people engaged in criminal activity for the usual profit motive. (11)
While statements such as these can be explained as the results of naivete or incompetence (12), it seems quite clear that there was also present a continuing intent to cover up Chinese Communist drug-trafficking. One of the favourite words used to avoid the existence of intelligence information is 'evidence'. What really constitutes 'evidence'?
Does a report in draft form constitute an 'investigation'? A former CIA analyst who was detailed to the Strategic Intelligence Office of BNDD (which became the DEA in July 1973) was writing a report on Communist China's intelligence service, and specifically its involvement in narcotics trafficking, at the time the above denial was written.
The report picked up the Chinese narcotics trail back in the days of Anslinger and brought the story forward to the date of the report. It identified names, dates, places, organisations and so forth. The extensive and deliberate involvement of Communist China was obvious. The report was suppressed by DEA officials in 1973 while still in draft stage.
The cover-up of Communist China's drugs and narcotics trafficking appears to have started in the early 1960s. It took on greatly increased scope during the Nixon Administration, and it appears to be continuing today.
The footnotes are both scrupulous and fascinating ... in a fearsome sort of fashion.
Interested in the Who, What, Where and Why of the corruption of our Agencies?
Follow the Big, Cash Money ...
Is that second batch of footnotes from "Red Cocaine"?
"I personally think that McCarthy was right."
Both you, me, and Ann Coulter are in definite agreement on that point!!! Have you read McCarthy's book, "America's Retreat From Victory"?
>>>Some may be handing me a tinfoil, about now, but I read some books from former Soviet and other E. European agents, who outlines some of this strategy in detail.
You don't need a tinfoil hat. You are right. Go read Leonard Magruder, President of Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform, http://www.i-served.com/MagruderArticlesIndex.html
Published in October 1994 Inside Story: World ReportSo far, so good.Copyright (c) 1994 by Inside Story Communications
In early August, German undercover operatives arrested three foreigners smuggling plutonium out of the "former" Soviet Union...
...Recent stories leaked by Soviet authorities...Hopefully, he simply forgot the 'former'.
The United States is already responding. Soviet personnel have arrived in New Mexico... (SNIP) ...formally declared it would now open an office in Moscow-to work more closely with Soviet police authorities.3 Meanwhile, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has quietly been setting up a program of cooperation with the Soviet KGBIn 1994? Soviet KGB? The author's accuracy is in serious doubt from here on out. I'm surprised he didn't bring up 'Red Mercury'.
Thanks for the ping!
>>>In 1994? Soviet KGB?
Peter, I'm blonde. Speak to me as if I don't understand.
Why is using the term soviet inappropriate even after 'it fell'. The Ukrainian newsletters still refer to aspects of Russia as soviet. It seems to be the same as the USA using the term democrat.
"In 1994? Soviet KGB? The author's accuracy is in serious doubt from here on out. I'm surprised he didn't bring up 'Red Mercury'."
That was back during the time when people were still getting used to the new name. Notice the author(s) point out that there is a successor organization that they refer to as the "new" KGB.
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