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Court rules whales, dolphins can't sue Bush
ABC News ^ | 10/21/04 | Reuters

Posted on 10/21/2004 6:04:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

The world's whales, porpoises and dolphins have no standing to sue President George W Bush over the US Navy's use of sonar equipment that harms marine mammals, a federal appeals court has ruled.

The ruling was made by a three-judge panel of the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, widely considered one of the most liberal and activist in the country.

It said it saw no reason why animals should not be allowed to sue but said they had not been granted that right.

"If Congress and the President intended to take the extraordinary step of authorising animals as well as people and legal entities to sue they could and should have said so plainly," Judge William A Fletcher wrote in an 18-page opinion for the panel.

The lawsuit was brought against Mr Bush and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on behalf the Cetacean Community - defined as the world's whales, porpoises and dolphins - by their self-appointed lawyer, marine mammal activist Lanny Sinkin.

Mr Sinkin claimed in the lawsuit that the US Navy had violated the Endangered Species Act with its use of long-range, low-frequency sonar that can cause tissue damage and other injuries to marine mammals.

Mr Sinkin could not be reached for comment on the 9th Circuit's decision, which upheld a lower court ruling.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; bush; dolphins; enviornmentalwackos; greenfifthcolumn; lawsuits; sonar; whales
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Personally, I'm stunned that the Ninth Circus finally decided to draw the line.
1 posted on 10/21/2004 6:04:10 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

What about anteaters


2 posted on 10/21/2004 6:04:50 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: Lady Jag

Flipper and Shamu plan to appeal.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 6:06:11 PM PDT by Tensgrrl
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To: wagglebee

9th circus should have NEVER even considered it!

TOTAL WASTE of $$$$$


4 posted on 10/21/2004 6:06:13 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: wagglebee
already posted here.
5 posted on 10/21/2004 6:06:39 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: wagglebee
Personally, I'm stunned that the Ninth Circus finally decided to draw the line.


Actually the have not. They said if they (mammals) had been afforded rights they could sue. Translation. We need to work on getting Whales rights, we need to take down Bush one way or another.
6 posted on 10/21/2004 6:06:52 PM PDT by DAC22
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To: wagglebee
Considering the court, this is a surprise ruling.
7 posted on 10/21/2004 6:07:08 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: wagglebee

"It said it saw no reason why animals should not be allowed to sue but said they had not been granted that right."


It isn't a firm line.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 6:07:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: wagglebee

I can't decide whether these people need to be shut up in a mental institution or prosecuted.


9 posted on 10/21/2004 6:07:27 PM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS & ABC went down, soon there'll be none!)
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To: wagglebee; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
10 posted on 10/21/2004 6:07:35 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: wagglebee

If they tried to pass that, maybe Conservatives could claim aborted babies deserve the right to sue....


11 posted on 10/21/2004 6:09:55 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (These Commies are ruining our country...........WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE)
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To: wagglebee

Geese consulted for the story indicated that they were
extremely dismayed, as they had already invested their
entire nest egg on lawyers preparing complaints against
John Kerry, who is having geese killed indiscriminately
for political purposes.


12 posted on 10/21/2004 6:11:28 PM PDT by Boundless (Was your voter registration sabotaged by ACORN? Don't find out Nov. 2. Vote early.)
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Flipper and Shamu plan to appeal.

Their attorney, Mark Geragos, promises a vigorous campaign to see to it that Flipper and Shamu have their day in court.

13 posted on 10/21/2004 6:11:58 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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Flipper is going to sue Kerry also for copyright infringement


14 posted on 10/21/2004 6:14:53 PM PDT by badpacifist
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To: GreenHornet

Flipper is going to sue Kerry also for copyright infringement


15 posted on 10/21/2004 6:14:57 PM PDT by badpacifist
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To: wagglebee

I think the whales should be allowed to sue when Lanny Sinkem can get an adult sperm whale in the witness box at the San Francisco court house.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 6:17:21 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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I'm surprised PETA isn't appealing the decision. I'm sure they believe that the fish have the right to sue, just like people do. Some Libby lawyer will try to take this further.


17 posted on 10/21/2004 6:18:18 PM PDT by sitewriter
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To: GreenHornet

Unless he finds bigger fish to fry!


18 posted on 10/21/2004 6:18:55 PM PDT by Tensgrrl
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To: DAC22
It said it saw no reason why animals should not be allowed to sue but said they had not been granted that right. "If Congress and the President intended to take the extraordinary step of authorising animals as well as people and legal entities to sue they could and should have said so plainly," Judge William A Fletcher wrote in an 18-page opinion for the panel.

"Authorizing" my arse. The gov. does NOT authorize me, or anyone else, with rights. I, as a human, am endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights. Among them, the right to a redress of grievances.

This farce should have been stopped at the courthouse steps.

19 posted on 10/21/2004 6:22:19 PM PDT by Churchjack
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It's a good thing the case didn't make it to trial, I hear the dolphins didn't have a leg to stand on.


20 posted on 10/21/2004 6:23:09 PM PDT by samson1097
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