(Laura Ingraham caller) Unfreakingbelievable RAT phone tactics targeting military families

To: doug from upland

221 posted on 10/21/2004 12:24:06 PM PDT by uncitizen

Damn them! If this is true, I can't imagine anyone reacting postively toward the caller and their candidate.

222 posted on 10/21/2004 12:36:10 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy

To: alwaysconservative

I think we all need to vent about these outrageous things.

223 posted on 10/21/2004 12:40:32 PM PDT by MistyCA (I think if you were to ask Edward's wife, who is fat, she would tell you she is being who she is...)

Laura is hoping that someone will be able to get that recorded message so it can be exposed for all to see.

Shouldn't be difficult if these calls were really made.

This report has been up for some time now and we don't have confirmation, so it looks like a wild goose story. Possibly someone (or a few people) got a crank call along these lines and the story has taken off.

But FWIW, automatic dialers can tell the difference between live pickups and answering machines. They can be set to leave a message or not, depending on the campaign. Getting a recording of this message (again, if such a campaign is indeed underway) is not necessarily semi-automatic.

224 posted on 10/21/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT by sphinx

To: MistyCA; doug from upland; armymarinemom; ABG(anybody but Gore); Mo1; grannie9

this is on internet NY time EST

I Am sure she will playback the talk tonight EST!

Laura Ingraham
Weekdays: 8:00 PM - 10:00 PM
http://www.wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=18049

225 posted on 10/21/2004 12:45:26 PM PDT by restornu (By faith Bush subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, and worked miracles.)

automatic dialers can tell the difference between live pickups and answering machines

Well then, knowing the rats, if these calls were made they were surely only to live pick-ups.

226 posted on 10/21/2004 12:47:02 PM PDT by 1Old Pro

Ping-thanks-grrrrr-bump.

227 posted on 10/21/2004 12:49:39 PM PDT by talleyman (Kriminals for Kerry - Why use a gun to steal when you can use a Democrat?)

"What do they say about Ted Kennedy?"

Good question....

228 posted on 10/21/2004 12:55:21 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (To the "undecideds": Want some wood? Vote for GW November 2. You'll feel better.)

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; All; Aegedius

Per the request of Aegedius, I will share my experience as a child of a serviceman during the Vietnam War when EXACTLY this type of thing happened, an event that made me a conservative at about the age of 3, realizing that the "peace protesters" like John Kerry actually just hate America and don't really care about people.

I have very few clear memories before the age of 5 --- this is one.

My dad flew B-52's in Vietnam. More correctly, he flew IN B-52's -- he was the electronic countermeasures crewman. My knowledge of the war was that dad would disappear for a couple or days or a week, mom and my older sisters would be worried, and then we would all be happy when he came home.

One day, when mom was out, we got a call one of the times dad was away. The eldest (10? 13? Not sure.) answered.

DAD WAS DEAD SAID the caller. He was shot down in Vietnam. She started to cry. The middle sister started to cry. I started to cry.

Mom came home to three hysterical children. She knew the call was a fake; the base wives had been warned of this trick. I remember being scared until dad finally came home the next day.

So Snopes, et al, can go jump in a lake. This really did happen.

This is not all. This is probably more the memory of my sisters imparted on me that my own recollection. It came about because of a tradition on the base.

The school was right off to the side of the base --- you could see (and hear) every plane land and take off.

In fact, the school was so close that the kids could also see the "peace protestors" with their signs out on the fence edge.

Basically everyone in the little elementary/pre- school we went to knew someone in the air crews that went out --- either fathers of the kids, or the kids' dads were on the ground crew or neighbors or whatnot. I suspect (no knowledge)that half the teachers were wives of servicemen.

Anyway, when we heard the lumbering engines of the B-52's coming back, everyone could go run out and see their dads come back.

The eldest kids learned to count the planes out and count the planes in.

One day, a couple planes did not come back.

The protesters, who could count too, cheered while the sons and daughters wept.

Importantly, it turned out the planes were not shot down, but diverted somewhere (Japan?) due to some mechanical problem, so it ended fine. Regardless, the protesters showed their true colors.

Indeed, it reminds me of the gloating of the media and Democrats as they eagerly awaited the 1000th death in Iraq.

229 posted on 10/21/2004 12:56:53 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan

I saw this earlier. Has it been confirmed yet? This is outrageous. I'll have to read the rest of the thread.

230 posted on 10/21/2004 1:00:14 PM PDT by SpookBrat

To: doug from upland; All

Now I need to ask a few questions to those that heard it on Laura's show. First of all was the call a tape recording or was it a live person.

Secondly how on earth did the Dems get the name of someone who is in the military and then get their phone number?

I am absolutely appalled if this is true, but right now it doesn't pass the smell test that they could even obtain that information.

231 posted on 10/21/2004 1:02:52 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Another military family for Bush;)

I agree. That, again, is IF such calls are being made. We should have numerous reports by now, and that doesn't seem to be happening.

If multiple reports do surface, it would be possible to identify the call center by the telephone records, and then get the script. This would take some time and effort, but it's doable. Thinking from the 'rat perspective (disagreeable but necessary), there's too much time between now and the election -- time enough for this to be walked back. Truly contemptible calls are usually done in the last couple of days to ensure that the backlash doesn't hit until after the election. Lawton Chiles can tell you how to time it.

232 posted on 10/21/2004 1:03:09 PM PDT by sphinx

233 posted on 10/21/2004 1:10:36 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)

Well then, knowing the rats, if these calls were made they were surely only to live pick-ups.

Go to Radio Shack, they have a little device that plugs into any phone jack and will record ( you supply the tape recorder)any conversation on the line.

I've used it and it work great. The other party absolutely can't tell the recorder comes on.

234 posted on 10/21/2004 1:31:22 PM PDT by Vinnie

The incident is being reported in Denver radio, the lady who got the call is in the report.

235 posted on 10/21/2004 1:40:01 PM PDT by xone

'Isn't there a military base there?'

Colrado Springs,....yeah that's why they call it FORT Carson.

236 posted on 10/21/2004 1:43:54 PM PDT by xone

To: Illinois Rep

"What once was a close race has the makings of being a 48 state landslide."

Oh how I'd love to see that happen. However, your state along with Washington, Michigan. Massachusetts and a handful of other states will not vote for Bush. There are too many air heads that have no clue.

237 posted on 10/21/2004 1:50:48 PM PDT by rj45mis

To: doug from upland

This is really cowardly and low. Lowest of the low.

238 posted on 10/21/2004 2:09:56 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)

No, I was ready to attack her, but I said to myself

"DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS FREAK"

239 posted on 10/21/2004 2:40:28 PM PDT by crushelits

To: doug from upland; conspiratoristo; Pontiac; boxerblues; dubyaismypresident; GOP_Lady; DollyCali; ...

How low can the RATS go?

240 posted on 10/21/2004 3:26:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Let's roll" in 2004 ----- Vote for President Bush!)

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