[Toddsterpatriot]

How many families --- 6, 7, 8 or even more kids were living in one-income families, one wage-earner was able to support the entire family, no food stamps, no housing subsidies, no Medicaid? How many one-income families are there today in comparison --- which get no government help?

Is that because of falling real income or rising taxes?

[FITZ]

A lot of those rising taxes are to pay for the government social programs for a population that is unable to work and provide much of a living for itself. In this area you can find many "NAFTA displaced workers" --- thousands of them who will never work again --- many are only in their 40's and 50's and they're living off the many government programs which taxes must support.

I could see the free trade argument that we don't need low skilled laborers if we weren't importing so many at higher rates than ever --- and also if we would encourage those we have to leave the country to follow their jobs out.