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To: billva
His final poll was far more accurate than his polls in the final month which consistently showed Gore ahead. Then his final poll was very accurate.

And I'm sure his final poll was more accurate than the one taken before Gore announced his run for president. Is it not apparent to you that as you draw closer to the election, voters perceptions change up until the last day. Come on - add a second dimention to your thought process.

42 posted on 10/20/2004 5:32:18 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: ClintonBeGone
We have to remember a few things here:

1. Zogby can't predict know turnout. That is why he was off in 2002. He didn't accurately predict the intensity of GOP voters. That is why we don't need to wring our hands. Just get out and work,work, work! The name of the game this time, like most, is TURNOUT!

2. We should not get too down at a negative poll. But we should not get to giddy over a positive one.

3. As Rush tells us, the dirty little secret of this election is that Kerry has NEVER been ahead in this election. I know a couple of random polls showed him in the past a point or so up or several months ago. But the RCP average is telling. He has not been ahead, even when he was on a big time role.

So we should not be too done by this. Just 13 days to VICTORY!
66 posted on 10/20/2004 5:45:59 AM PDT by gbscott1954 (Zogby poll)
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To: ClintonBeGone
National Council on Public Polls - Error Measure

Final National Presidential Poll Results, 1936-2000

National Council on Public Polls - Error Measure
2000-Preliminary

Gore Bush Nader Un- decided Other Gore- Bush Margin Error
Poll - Elect
Candidate
Error
Election Result 48% 48% 3%   1% 0%    
Zogby 48% 46% 5% 0% 1% 2% 2% 1.0%
CBS 45% 44% 4% 5% 2% 1% 1% 0.5%
Harris (Phone) 47% 47% 5% 0% 1% 0% 0% 0.0%
Gallup/CNN/USA Today 46% 48% 4% 0% 2% -2% 2% 1.0%
Pew Research 47% 49% 4% 0% 0% -2% 2% 1.0%
IBD/CSM/Tipp 46% 48% 4% 0% 2% -2% 2% 1.0%
ICR/Politics Now 44% 46% 7% 1% 2% -2% 2% 1.0%
NBC/WSJ 44% 47% 3% 4% 2% -3% 3% 1.5%
ABC/WashPost 45% 48% 3% 3% 1% -3% 3% 1.5%
Battleground 45% 50% 4% 0% 1% -5% 5% 2.5%
          Avg. Error 2.2% 1.1%
Alternative Methods                
Harris Interactive 47% 47% 4% 0% 2% 0% 0% 0.0%
Rasmussen 49% 40% 4%   9% 9% 4.5%

THIRD PARTY ERROR  
---------------------Allocate Undecided*-----------------------
Gore Bush Nader Other Nader Error  
48% 46% 5.0% 1% 2% 100%
47% 46% 4.0% 2% 1% 100%
47% 47% 5.0% 1% 2% 100%
46% 48% 4.0% 2% 1% 100%
47% 49% 4.0% 0% 1% 100%
46% 48% 4.0% 2% 1% 100%
44% 46% 7.0% 2% 4% 100%
46% 49% 3.0% 2% 0% 100%
46% 49% 3.0% 1% 0% 100%
45% 50% 4.0% 1% 1% 100%
  Avg. Nader Error 1.3%  
47% 47% 4.0% 2% 1% 100%


1996
Clinton Dole Perot Un- decided Other Clinton- Dole Margin Error
Poll - Elect
Candidate
Error
Election Result 49.0% 41% 8%   2% 8%    
CBS/NYT 53% 35% 9% 3% 0% 18% 10% 5.0%
ABC News 51% 39% 7% 3% 0% 12% 4% 2.0%
NBC/WSJ 49% 37% 9.0% 5% 0% 12% 4% 2.0%
Gallup/CNN/USA Today 52% 41% 7% 0% 0% 11% 3% 1.5%
ICR/Politics Now 51% 38% 11% 0% 0% 13% 5% 2.5%
Hotline/Battleground 45% 36% 8% 11% 0% 9% 1% 0.5%
Harris 51% 39% 9% 0% 1% 12% 4% 2.0%
Zogby/Reuters 49% 41% 8% 0% 2% 8% 0% 0.0%
PSR/PewCenter 52% 38% 9% 0% 1% 14% 6% 3.0%
    Avg. Total Error 4.1% 2.1%

1996 was the year first year Zogby appeared in Presidential polls and called it exactly right. In 2000 a couple of polls were more accurate. In 2002 Zogby was way off in some state polls.


82 posted on 10/20/2004 5:54:03 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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