Posted on 10/19/2004 8:00:49 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
It's just another money grab in New York.
They're 'plan' was to ban smoking and the issue 'waivers' (at a cost, of course) to any bar that applied for them.
Of course, there were townships and villages that passed their own 'bans' and therefore would not allow smoking, even with a state 'waiver'.
This plan has been a money grab ever since the states started suing the tobacco companies over 'health' issues.
But if you check the record. You will find that very little of the settlement money is used for 'health'.
Snort! Yeah right!
He still has 35 full time employees? Sounds to me like he did not make any adjustments for the drop in revenue. I would say that his management decisions may be just as at fault as the smoking ban.
For those outside of Buffalo, Jimmy Mac's was a place you'd go for lunch on a Saturday afternoon then wind up sitting at the bar for hours, a real "regular guy's" kind of bar with great food, wooden booths and a fantastic jukebox. There's nowhere else on the Elmwood strip to drink now, except if you like froufrou places like Toro (Tapas Bar) or Nektar (martini bar) where you can pay $7 a drink.. No thanks. I guess there's Merlin's but it's a much younger crowd and is kind of icky.
The only reason for us to travel into the city (besides the Sabres, another minus this year due to no hockey) is now gone. This is very sad, and I'm embarrassed to say I volunteered for Pataki's reelection, after which he signed the smoking ban.
God help the state of New York. It can't get much worse. Actually, if John Kerry gets elected, it will get worse.
BUFFALO residents, please don't forget to vote for Nancy Naples and Tom Reynolds... they're our only hope!!!
Screw these types! Out them with ridicule and resist their dictums.
I used to play at Merlins on Wednesday and Sunday nights.
People can still go drink at Bullfeathers and a couple other places, unless they have gone under as well.
I used to live next to Bullfeathers and would eat at Pano's almost every day. I enjoyed going to Bullfeathers to see Geno McManus play.
PING!
This gun owner and 2nd Amendment activist will never ever support him or his cronies again!
He's the victim of his own stupid negotiating strategy
On the contrary GOVERNMENT takes in more profit on the sales of tobacco than the tobacco companies ever dreamed of.
I ain't figured out why the state is so all-fired determined to protect the health of a bunch of drunks.
Its about the health of the employees according to the state. They shouldn't have to be exposed to cigarette smoke at work.
"He's the victim of his own stupid negotiating strategy"
If he is really losing 10,000 a month, I am surprised he can sell the business for even 100,000. Business's that lose money are only worth the equipment and fixtures minus the debt. Can't be worth much.
A fully stocked bar/restuarant can easily approach 100K in equipment and inventory. Especially if it has a large full service kitchen. Ever try to price commerical stoves, ovens, walk in fridges and freezers?
"I am surprised he can sell the business for even 100,000. Business's that lose money are only worth the equipment and fixtures minus the debt. Can't be worth much"
You obviously haven't tried to set up a bar/restaaurant business with all the furnishings and fixtures.
It's worth even more to someone who wants a turnkey operation. And yes, there are people who always think they can make a go of a losing proposition, usually because they have no experience in the business and think they have a better idea.
That is not all he is stupid about. See also my post #4
Yeah, Bullfeathers is still around, and of course Coles, Nonames and what's that place next to Coles? Can't remember. Anyway, we never hit these places much because it's always college kids in there. I don't need to be reminded how old I am while enjoying a Manhattan!!!! :-) May as well go hang out at Chippewa for that reality check!
The anti's plan goes forward.
I sometimes wonder if the chains restaurants aren't backing the anti's to drive others (nonchain) out of business.
She, Gabz, either of you got a breakdown of where the anti's get their money?
I will check my files and see what I can find, Joe! Thanks for the ping. I would have missed this one.
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