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Numerical Analysis: Gallup polls - May to October, 2004.
Gallup Organization ^ | October 19th, 2004 | dvwjr

Posted on 10/19/2004 12:18:46 AM PDT by dvwjr

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Gallup Ping

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21 posted on 10/19/2004 2:00:09 AM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: onyx
Now that's what I would call pithy! :)
22 posted on 10/19/2004 2:00:55 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"You're using registered voters not likely voters, right?"

Gallup needs to separate the two types of registered, the legal registered and the NAACP Crack registered.


23 posted on 10/19/2004 5:46:25 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: dvwjr

Could you use a little bit more color? (/sarcasm)


24 posted on 10/19/2004 5:59:52 AM PDT by 11th_VA (John Kerry - America's first European ruler since King George)
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To: RWR8189; dvwjr

Thanks. I've been hearing, leading up to this election, that polls of likely voters are more reliable than those of registered voters. Last night, I read something by the host of another site (democRat site) attempting to explain why he feels that registered is better. Maybe he just didn't like that 8 point lead by GWB!
It's too bad that gallup used more Rs than Ds in their sample though. Can you think of any good reason for doing this?


25 posted on 10/19/2004 6:17:41 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Poor John Kerry, he can't help it. He was born with a silver flip-flop in his mouth.)
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To: dvwjr

I'm starting to get a bit concerned that the state by state maps don't seem to be following the national polls, although I do know of the claim that the EC maps tend to lag behind the national polls. We should be seeing Florida and Ohio unmistakenly trending to President Bush, but it doesn't seem to be happening, at least not yet. The map now looks pretty much like it did four years ago, except that New Hamphire is now light blue. That's a bit discouraging. It may very well be the case that Gallup is measuring only that Bush is increasing his lead in red states, without really helping himself much in the purple and light blue states.


26 posted on 10/19/2004 6:43:21 AM PDT by kesg
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To: dvwjr

27 posted on 10/19/2004 6:44:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 11th_VA

The color in the spreadsheet allows the eye to quickly center in on voting sub-groups in shades of Blue for Republicans (or Republicans candidates), Red for Democrats (or Democrat candidates) and Green for Independents (or green for various Independent candidates). (/don't care...)



dvwjr


28 posted on 10/19/2004 9:42:37 AM PDT by dvwjr
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To: ride the whirlwind
Gallup does not re-weight their sample for partisan political party affiliation. Therefore the R/D/I percentages 'float'; other polling organization such as the American Research Group and Zogby use some form or re-weighting based on the year 2000 VSN presidential exit polls to 'fix' their raw data. That is why I created the far right column in the master data table of the Gallup partisan preference internals to show what would happen if Gallup went from being a polling organization that 'fixes' rather than to 'floats' its polling sample...

We will see by the year 2004 exit polls conducted by the successor organization to the now defunct VNS show which polling philosophy was correct.


dvwjr
29 posted on 10/19/2004 10:06:52 AM PDT by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr

This may seem obvious to some, but you can mark and copy web tables and paste them into Excel. It keeps the labels and colors, and you can graph the numbers.


30 posted on 10/19/2004 10:13:17 AM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: js1138
Yep. That's why I used an add-on utility "ASAP Utilites" for Excel '97 (8.0n) to export to HTML tables. It will allow anyone else to copy/paste directly into their spreadsheet of choice and manipulate the numbers.

A nice exchange mechanism...


dvwjr
31 posted on 10/19/2004 11:21:01 AM PDT by dvwjr
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To: onyx

"How can ANY thinking person vote for Kerry?"

I share your sentiment, but it reminds me of a wonderful Adlai Stevenson quip:

During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to him, "You have the vote of every thinking person!" Stevenson called back, "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"


32 posted on 10/19/2004 11:28:34 AM PDT by labard1
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To: dvwjr

Argh! I posted in such a hurry earlier that I didn't even notice that last column with your adjusted numbers! Thanks (I think). I say, I think, because obviously your adjusted numbers favor sKerry.


33 posted on 10/19/2004 12:18:08 PM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Poor John Kerry, he can't help it. He was born with a silver flip-flop in his mouth.)
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To: dvwjr
Thanks for the ping.

It looks as if Gallup has started poling more Republicans than democrats, what is the reason behind that? If it is true that more Republicans than democrats are being polled, The numbers for Bush will always look better.

34 posted on 10/19/2004 12:49:24 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: labard1


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for that.


35 posted on 10/19/2004 6:39:52 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: Reaganez


First most important state: Fla. Because that is the foundation for everything. Then Ohio because that is the closer. Then, failing Ohio, Wis. because that is the fail safe stop loss leaving us one agonizing vote short of the House of Representatives. Then, counting Wis in, Ia with 7 to win. Or, N. Mex with 5 which would also be a win. Then Maine where we could just possibly find the one electoral vote in this ticket splitting state to get us to 269 and a victory in the House.

This means that we must hold all the 2000 states if we lose Ohio. If we lose Florida we must hold Ohio and gain Wis and either Ia. and N. Mex. or Ia and one from Maine. Instead of requiring Kerry to run the table to win as he must if we win Ohio, we must run the table if we lose Fl.

I am aware that other states like Or. or Pa or even NJ can play a decisive role for us but this is my judgment of the probabilities. If we win Ohio we are almost certain to win. If we lose Fl. we are almost certain to lose. If we lose Ohio all eyes turn first to Wis and then the rest.

Godspeed, George Bush.


36 posted on 10/19/2004 9:08:28 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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