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To: finallyatexan
You put gay in the category of drunken slime bag idiots, not me. And you argued against it being in the category of tall or brunette. Looks pretty obvious where you come down on it.

If it is in the category of tall or brunette, who cares whether Kerry says it in public? If it is in the category of drunken or slime bag or idiot, then it would be a slur to say it.

If it is a slur to call her a lesbian, being a lesbian must, ipso facto, be a bad thing. So how can her parents say that Kerry slurred her?

44 posted on 10/18/2004 1:04:46 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

You know what - one of my kids is gay and we love him with all our hearts - but until HE wants the public to know it is none of anyones business!!!!!
You seem to think anyone and everything is fair game
Plan and simple -
Stay out of other people lives unless and until they want your input.


51 posted on 10/18/2004 1:22:59 PM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: lugsoul
If it is a slur to call her a lesbian, being a lesbian must, ipso facto, be a bad thing. So how can her parents say that Kerry slurred her?

It's a slur to call anybody anything that is taken as a perceived insult. It has nothing to do with what the victim thinks about it, and everything to do with what the person saying it means by it. And that is partly an issue of context. Do you assume that a person is ashamed of being Hispanic if they don't like being called a Spic? Or that a person from the South thinks it's 'wrong' to be Southern if they object to being called a redneck by someone they don't know?

It is a huge, huge insult to call her out, expose her private life to millions, and put words in her mouth that purport to present how she feels about private and personal issues. It has nothing to do with whether one considers that saying someone is gay is inherently an insult. And Kerry took a rhetorical detour from about New York to California to throw those jabs in, also, so it was OBVIOUSLY a preplanned event.

There is NO comparison between Kerry's stunt and Dick Cheney saying in public, in context, that his daughter is gay and that is partly why he feels a certain way on a particular issue. Absolutely none.

52 posted on 10/18/2004 1:30:35 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Terrorists will "global test" us right off the planet)
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