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Kerry's Comments on Vice-President's Gay Daughter Resonate on U.S. Airwaves
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| Oct. 17, 2004
| Michael Bowman
Posted on 10/18/2004 9:00:35 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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The Dems think America should move past this, so that we can concentrate in the next few weeks on JFK's faith healing, Bush's plan to starve old people and draft young ones, Republicans' plan to suppress blacks, and whatever other bizarre idiotic charges they can come up with between now and Nov. 2nd.
I hope the Republicans keep saying it:
"These people will say anything to get elected!"
To: JustaCowgirl
May you shouldn't go calling your opponent's daughter a dyke on national television. Voters don't seem to like that.
To: JustaCowgirl
Personally, I did not find the comment offensive, but it does point out how far out of touch the DemocRATS are. Also poor judgment on that part of the DNC. Think of the idiots that a Kerry presidency would bring to his administration.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:05:57 AM PDT
by
stubernx98
(cranky, but reasonable)
To: JustaCowgirl
I think women hate it most, because a lot of them are really sensitive to sex.... as in, most of them have something to hide (maybe a lesbian encounter or two), and they'd be mortified to have it announced like that.
To: JustaCowgirl
Notice how both Lurch and the Breck Girl both, within days, came out with the same comment.
This was totally scripted, and planned for as part of a strategy.
Question: whose strategy? Who is advising the kery campaign?
Why, it's Carville, Begala, and Lockhart, that's who...
Hillary is torpedoing Kerry.
The laughable part is these dummies are played so well. They don't even know they are being politically killed.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:08:07 AM PDT
by
Victor
To: SteveMcKing
I don't think women are offended by it because of any implications about their own sexuality. I think they're offended because Kerry callously invaded the privacy of another person, and put words in that person's mouth about what they would think. Who wouldn't be offended by that?
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:09:54 AM PDT
by
JustaCowgirl
(Terrorists will "global test" us right off the planet)
To: JustaCowgirl
Kerry/DNC message to gay community:
"If we feel like it, we'll out you."
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:11:50 AM PDT
by
Boundless
(Was your voter registration sabotaged by ACORN? Don't find out Nov. 2. Vote early.)
To: JustaCowgirl
Sung in the key of K
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:12:17 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
To: JustaCowgirl
I think they're offended because Kerry callously invaded the privacy of another person, and put words in that person's mouth about what they would think. Who wouldn't be offended by that?That's true too - we have a right to judge however we want, and he shouldn't tell us otherwise.
In the context of the culture war, I'd stand by my point that women are more ashamed of sex in general (straight or not). The real battle is that we prefer to keep those matters private and live with our own shame ("we are all sinners..."), while liberals want sex sex sex everywhere - they even have a name for it, the "Pride" movement.
To: stubernx98
Personally, I did not find the comment offensive, but it does point out how far out of touch the DemocRATS are. The comment came across as pre-planned. As if his advisor said 'Make sure to mention that Cheney's daughter is lesbian'. This was just my impression, the way he seemed to force the sentence. I'm not particularly offended by it, but it is weird. 'Being as she was born as'? What's that supposed to mean? Is it good to be a serial rapist if that's what you were 'born as'? As a presidential candidate, Kerry should have known better. Maybe he could have led up to the same thing a little more adroitly.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:15:46 AM PDT
by
nosofar
To: JustaCowgirl
.......and put words in that person's mouth about what they would think. That is exactly what offended me. Plus using the daughter of his opponent, instead of someone from his own party.
Additionally he never answered the question.....which was what HE thought........not what he believes someone else thinks.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:16:23 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
To: JustaCowgirl
Kerry publicly inserted himself into the relationship between Cheney and his daughter, claiming a better understanding of the daughter than Cheney. And he did this for political advantage. I think most women would instinctively resent that, would resent an outsider sticking his nose into your relationship with one of your children.
To: JustaCowgirl
Not only was the response stupid, it wasn't even responsive.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:18:25 AM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: SteveMcKing
I don't think it's so much a sensitivity to sex as it is a sensitivity to FAMILY. I can say anything I want about my family but no one else has the right or the authority to do so. If someone outside my family said anything about my kids I would lay them out flat.
To: SteveMcKing
Gee, ya think...
I'd stand by my point that women are more ashamed of sex in general (straight or not).
I'd suggest a therapist for this type of outlook. It's a lot more simple than you think. Since most girls grow up having been called a slut and other negative names by boys trying to score cheap points and keep the upstart girls in their place, girls just prefer to keep private matters private.
Don't make it any more complex than it is. Can you say, "It's none of your business ?"
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:22:54 AM PDT
by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: JustaCowgirl
""John Kerry was being positive," said Mr. Devine. "Unfortunately, it [the remark] was perceived otherwise. And I think I know why. The president lost three debates to John Kerry. The president's position is eroding in the polls. The president cannot defend his record over the last four years." "
Barney Frank coached Kerry for the debates. Kerry could have mentioned him and this would never have been an issue.
Kerry opened the barn. The horse just ran him over... as usual.
To: Gabz
And he starts out his little hit piece with "We're all God's children, Bob." Given what he said subsequently, wasn't he clearly implying that there are
those out there who wouldn't think Mary Cheney was one of God's children. So he has to smugly, preachily remind those people that indeed we are all God's children.
The smug superiority involved in that little slam is simply breathtaking, but it's gotten lost in the magnitude of his subsequent remarks.
Good grief, how I despise this man.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:25:19 AM PDT
by
JustaCowgirl
(Terrorists will "global test" us right off the planet)
To: cinives
Who's being sensitive now?
To: nosofar
"The comment came across as pre-planned."
It was, just as Edwards' comment about Cheney's daughter was preplanned. By doing this, they are playing several different angles: (1) trying to make the Republicans anti-gay marriage stance seem cruel and hypocritical; (2) trying to present Cheney as a failed father ("he raised a GAY daughter - hmmmmmmmm") whose ideology cannot overcome the truth of gayness; (3) trying to appear more sympathetic to - and understanding of - Cheney's daughter than Cheney himself is; and (4) trying to drive a wedge between Bush and Cheney to weaken the perception of Republicans as decidly anti-gay marriage. This is a very deliberate strategy. The strategy is aimed at conservatives (items 2 and 4), moderates (items 1 and 3), and liberals (items 1 and 2).
To: JustaCowgirl
I'm with you.
Could you imagine the outcry and outrage if during a discussion of healthcare, Bush commented about the high costs of the "obesity epidemic" and mentioned Edwards' wife's' obvious problem in that area?
Class versus cRass.
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posted on
10/18/2004 9:32:23 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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