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Imagining America if George Bush Chose the Supreme Court
New York Times ^ | 10/18/04 | ADAM COHEN

Posted on 10/17/2004 8:00:26 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

EDITORIAL OBSERVER

Imagining America if George Bush Chose the Supreme Court

By ADAM COHEN

Published: October 18, 2004

Abortion might be a crime in most states. Gay people could be thrown in prison for having sex in their homes. States might be free to become mini-theocracies, endorsing Christianity and using tax money to help spread the gospel. The Constitution might no longer protect inmates from being brutalized by prison guards. Family and medical leave and environmental protections could disappear.

It hardly sounds like a winning platform, and of course President Bush isn't openly espousing these positions. But he did say in his last campaign that his favorite Supreme Court justices were Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, and the nominations he has made to the lower courts bear that out. Justices Scalia and Thomas are often called "conservative," but that does not begin to capture their philosophies. Both vehemently reject many of the core tenets of modern constitutional law.

For years, Justices Scalia and Thomas have been lobbing their judicial Molotov cocktails from the sidelines, while the court proceeded on its moderate-conservative path. But given the ages and inclinations of the current justices, it is quite possible that if Mr. Bush is re-elected, he will get three appointments, enough to forge a new majority that would turn the extreme Scalia-Thomas worldview into the law of the land.

There is every reason to believe Roe v. Wade would quickly be overturned. Mr. Bush ducked a question about his views on Roe in the third debate. But he sent his base a coded message in the second debate, with an odd reference to the Dred Scott case. Dred Scott, an 1857 decision upholding slavery, is rarely mentioned today, except in right-wing legal circles, where it is often likened to Roe. (Antiabortion theorists compare Dred Scott to Roe: in Dred Scott, the court did not see blacks as human and in Roe they say it did the same in regard to fetuses. ) For more than a decade, Justices Scalia and Thomas have urged their colleagues to reverse Roe and "get out of this area, where we have no right to be."

If Roe is lost, the Center for Reproductive Rights warns, there's a good chance that 30 states, home to more than 70 million women, will outlaw abortions within a year; some states may take only weeks. Criminalization will sweep well beyond the Bible Belt: Ohio could be among the first to drive young women to back-alley abortions and prosecute doctors.

If Justices Scalia and Thomas become the Constitution's final arbiters, the rights of racial minorities, gay people and the poor will be rolled back considerably. Both men dissented from the Supreme Court's narrow ruling upholding the University of Michigan's affirmative-action program, and appear eager to dismantle a wide array of diversity programs. When the court struck down Texas' "Homosexual Conduct" law last year, holding that the police violated John Lawrence's right to liberty when they raided his home and arrested him for having sex there, Justices Scalia and Thomas sided with the police.

They were just as indifferent to the plight of "M.L.B.," a poor mother of two from Mississippi. When her parental rights were terminated, she wanted to appeal, but Mississippi would not let her because she could not afford a court fee of $2,352.36. The Supreme Court held that she had a constitutional right to appeal. But Justices Scalia and Thomas dissented, arguing that if M.L.B. didn't have the money, her children would have to be put up for adoption.

That sort of cruelty is a theme running through many Scalia-Thomas opinions. A Louisiana inmate sued after he was shackled and then punched and kicked by two prison guards while a supervisor looked on. The court ruled that the beating, which left the inmate with a swollen face, loosened teeth and a cracked dental plate, violated the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. But Justices Scalia and Thomas insisted that the Eighth Amendment was not violated by the "insignificant" harm the inmate suffered.

This year, the court heard the case of a man with a court appearance in rural Tennessee who was forced to either crawl out of his wheelchair and up to the second floor or be carried up by court officers he worried would drop him. The man crawled up once, but when he refused to do it again, he was arrested. The court ruled that Tennessee violated the Americans With Disabilities Act by not providing an accessible courtroom, but Justices Scalia and Thomas said it didn't have to.

A Scalia-Thomas court would dismantle the wall between church and state. Justice Thomas gave an indication of just how much in his opinion in a case upholding Ohio's school voucher program. He suggested, despite many Supreme Court rulings to the contrary, that the First Amendment prohibition on establishing a religion may not apply to the states. If it doesn't, the states could adopt particular religions, and use tax money to proselytize for them. Justices Scalia and Thomas have also argued against basic rights of criminal suspects, like the Miranda warning about the right to remain silent.

President Bush claims to want judges who will apply law, not make it. But Justices Scalia and Thomas are judicial activists, eager to use the fast-expanding federalism doctrine to strike down laws that protect people's rights. Last year, they dissented from a decision upholding the Family and Medical Leave Act, which guarantees most workers up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a loved one. They said Congress did not have that power. They have expressed a desire to strike down air pollution and campaign finance laws for similar reasons.

Neither President Bush nor John Kerry has said much about Supreme Court nominations, wary of any issue whose impact on undecided voters cannot be readily predicted. But voters have to think about the Supreme Court. If President Bush gets the chance to name three young justices who share the views of Justices Scalia and Thomas, it could fundamentally change America for decades.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: adamconehead; boogeyman; fearisallthelefthas; fearmongering; fud; mandatorybarfalert; mba; slimes; spin; supremecourt
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More justices like Scalia and Thomas that interpret the Constitution instead of re-writing it. What a HORROR! /sarcasm

Looks like the New York Slimes is now trying to scare the liberal base to get out and vote using the Supreme Court an issue. There will be a THEOCRACY in Alabama!!!!!! Gays will be arrested in their homes and sent to jail and beaten!!!! We will be DOOMED! DOOMED!

1 posted on 10/17/2004 8:00:26 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

NYT=FUD Fear... uncertainty... doubt...


2 posted on 10/17/2004 8:01:52 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: conservative in nyc

Just imagine. Guys like Adam Cohen might have to stop killing babies. Wouldn't that be a tragedy!


3 posted on 10/17/2004 8:02:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: conservative in nyc

Where's the BARF alert?


4 posted on 10/17/2004 8:02:25 PM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: conservative in nyc

You forgot the BARF ALERT! In this case, major BARF ALERT!!


5 posted on 10/17/2004 8:02:28 PM PDT by Tatze (I will vote for John Kerry before I vote against him!)
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To: conservative in nyc

you know I could care less what The New York Times have to say....about anything....
they are so irrevelent anything they write is a joke....they are preaching to the choir....if they think what they print makes a bit of differce to us, they are more of a moron than we already think they are......


6 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:38 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: conservative in nyc

My title: Imagining America if Legislating was left to the Legislatures.


7 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:41 PM PDT by xjcsa ("Everything matters if anything matters at all")
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To: no more apples; Tatze

It's an editorial in the New York Slimes. No Barf Alert is needed. Every New York Slimes editorial comes with an automatic Barf Alert.


8 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:48 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

This moron won't have to imagine for long.


9 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:57 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: conservative in nyc

Typically left wing fear-mongering.


10 posted on 10/17/2004 8:04:35 PM PDT by Always Right
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"Imagining America if George Bush Chose the Supreme Court"

OK. Me too.

I imagine it would be pretty cool.

11 posted on 10/17/2004 8:05:06 PM PDT by Freemyland
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To: conservative in nyc

Hey he forgot about Jews and high tech ovens.


12 posted on 10/17/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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"Criminalization will sweep well beyond the Bible Belt: Ohio could be among the first to drive young women to back-alley abortions and prosecute doctors."

No, it could not be that we oppose all abortions. It's just that we want people to die if they try to have one.

He is so wrong about us. So wrong.


13 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:09 PM PDT by kfowler1 (Joined FR as a response to Dan Rather's great blunder.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Abortion might be a crime in most states. Gay people could be thrown in prison for having sex in their homes. States might be free to become mini-theocracies, endorsing Christianity and using tax money to help spread the gospel. The Constitution might no longer protect inmates from being brutalized by prison guards. Family and medical leave and environmental protections could disappear.

Lets not get hysterical. None of the above would happen. It's amazing how shrill and ill tempered the left is.

14 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: conservative in nyc; no more apples; Tatze

15 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:28 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>disingenuous filmmaker</A>)
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To: conservative in nyc

It is just too delicious to image! Wow, are things going to change in the next four years.


16 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:50 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: conservative in nyc

Good heavens... and they accuse the RIGHT of fearmongering LOL


17 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:09 PM PDT by Tamzee (How many men in their 50's need reminders from mom about integrity?)
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*yawn* Gee, if a Republican appointed someone to the court, they would immediately take away any and all 'rights.' Well, couple of news flashes...

Clinton appointed two, Reagan raised one justice to Chief Justice, and the rest have been appointed by Republicans, and low and behold, it's not a crime to be a fudgepacker in your own bedroom.

The doom and gloom crud is just more Democrats mirroring their own views onto Republicans. Since Republicans try to avoid appointing judges who view the bench as a place of activism, they put straight shooters up. Democrats have figured out that why should you have to go through the trouble of elections and voting for things when you can just rule from the bench.

Besides, Scalia thinks there should be more orgies. And I tend to agree -- most Supreme Court decisions would be a lot more entertaining to watch on DVD that way.
18 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:43 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: conservative in nyc

I can't tell you the joy I'm getting from reading the NY TImes these days. The anger and panic are palpable, with a stroke soon to follow Bush's victory.


19 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:48 PM PDT by zarf (Toilet paper medicated with aloe is the greatest invention since the electric light!!)
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To: Tamsey

I forgot to mention that he probably fears John Ashcroft getting the right to steal his imagination under patriot Act II.


20 posted on 10/17/2004 8:08:08 PM PDT by kfowler1 (Joined FR as a response to Dan Rather's great blunder.)
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