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Fixin' for a fight:In the GOP, the long knives are out for the neoconservatives
U.S.News & World Report ^ | 10/25/04 Issue | Thomas Omestad

Posted on 10/17/2004 3:02:51 PM PDT by Ed Current

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To: Godebert

**"I voted for Arnold."**

**Yup....I reckon voting for liberals is a hard habit to break.**

I was being pragmatic. At least the Governorship is now nominally a part of the Republican Party. Better than nothing.

But I hear ya.


101 posted on 10/17/2004 5:36:39 PM PDT by LeftCoastNeoCon
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To: King Prout
such a transparent reference to the extermination/purge of the SA from the Nazi ranks.

who the hell wrote this... Soros?

Don't know. But whoever it is, it's nothing that a good family ass-whipping won't cure.


$710.96... The price of freedom
VII-XXIII-MMIV

102 posted on 10/17/2004 5:37:16 PM PDT by rdb3 (How much are the Muslims paying Pat Buchanan?)
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To: rdb3

I'll take a stab: the base is those folks who think the Founders knew what they were doing, who think the Constitution means EXACTLY what it says, who believe that judicial forays into legislation must be curbed, and who generally think the government should stay out of the private lives of the citizenry as much as is possible in this imperfect real world we currently squat upon.

That's my take on the "base" of the Republican party.

I dunno who this other guy is talkin' 'bout.


103 posted on 10/17/2004 5:39:02 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: rdb3

sell tickets.
should be a good show.


104 posted on 10/17/2004 5:39:53 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: Ed Current

I just checked the Electoral Vote tracker at the LA Times - Bush 296; Kerry 206 with PA and NJ dead even. You can stick your fork in Kerry, he's done, as they say.


105 posted on 10/17/2004 5:42:54 PM PDT by matchwood
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To: Ed Current

self ping


106 posted on 10/17/2004 5:47:57 PM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: Prime Choice

"Got some background on the guy? This is the first time I've ever seen his name."

Yeah. Chafee's a lib. He votes with the Dems a lot of the time. He says he's not voting for Bush in the Presidential election.


107 posted on 10/17/2004 5:57:03 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers
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To: rdb3

Oh ,for the day that Bush wins reelection and we can return to the food fights of yore!


108 posted on 10/17/2004 6:01:03 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Ed Current
The neo-Conservatives don't really care, do they? They've made it known that they'll flock pretty merrily to the Dems, if the Dems can put forth a decent Interventionist candidate.

They don't seem to be married to many of the Conservative core principles. They believe in government intervention both abroad and at home, much more so than traditional Conservatives. President Bush does too, as far as I can tell. I'm voting for him because there's no alternative, but this Iraq invasion has yet to be sorted out. I supported it, and with ease. That won't happen so easily the next time he or anyone else bangs the drums of war.

The neo-Conservatives may have undue influence, who knows, but President Bush is his own man, and if one doesn't like the direction the Country is taking, then the person to blame for that (and, logically vote out of office) is the President, not those trying to bend his ear toward this policy or that policy. They have just as much right to try to bring their philosophy to bear as any other influential group has ever done, or will do in the future.

BTW, the link on cognitive disonance that you posted on a thread earlier this week was fascinating.

109 posted on 10/17/2004 6:16:06 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Ed Current
Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, a possible presidential candidate in 2008

For which party? Hagel is a traitoress blowhard.

110 posted on 10/17/2004 6:50:40 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: rdb3
You described a flaming Leftist.

No, I described 100% of the RINOs who keep stabbing Republican voters in the back, but keep getting propped up by Country Club pubbies.

111 posted on 10/17/2004 8:08:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: GOPcapitalist

almost any philosophy, even a good one, if taken to an extreme, tends to get a little nutty. if we take old fashioned conservativism to an extreme, we get an isolationist America like Buchanan wants, while if we take neo-conservativism to an extreme, we get something like an American version of the British or Roman empire, along with major deficit problems.the repub party is probably better off with both wings of conservativism, in some sort of dynamic balance.
what the libs see as a fault line is really a crucial strength.


112 posted on 10/17/2004 9:34:57 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Ed Current
Yet another stupid article about "neoconservatives" which has practically replaces the term "soccer moms" in it's irrelevance.
113 posted on 10/17/2004 9:37:58 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Kerry is a Nuanced Nuisance!)
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To: MEG33

Thanks :-)

Agreed!


114 posted on 10/17/2004 9:47:11 PM PDT by Tamzee (How many men in their 50's need reminders from mom about integrity?)
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To: drhogan

actually, the really interesting thing about the article is that it pretty much assumes that the repubs have won the election. (which i am assuming also.)
and with HRC running for president in 2008, i think the conservatives and neo-cons will manage to work in a united way.
to keep HER base intact, HRC will have to run further left than she will want to. when she runs to the left, the repubs will pull together.
the fight predicted in the article will probably not last very long.


115 posted on 10/17/2004 9:49:44 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Ed Current
Here's a language primer: scratch very far beneath the veneer of those one finds ranting against "neo-cons," and you'll usually find that what they REALLY mean when they say "neo-con" is "Jew." It's as simple as that.
116 posted on 10/17/2004 10:34:00 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: A Jovial Cad

Hating neo-cons is practically the Left's new hobby. They want to go back to the Gerald Ford Republican Party where they were a permanant minority


117 posted on 10/17/2004 11:22:15 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Seeking the truth
Both. There has always been a diversity of opinion in the Conservative wing of the Republican Party. You can look at it this way using common definitions. My Grandfather would have been a NeoCon, supported intervention in Europe in WW1 and WW2, my father a paleocon didn't initially support WW2 until Pearl Harbor, My Great grand father would have said a pox on their houses he hated everyone that wasn't born in Utah and Democratics in general.

My Great great grand father was a Wig and joined the Republicans because he was an abolitionist.

118 posted on 10/18/2004 9:52:50 AM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: Ed Current
You mean the Arab camel-humper who was one of 5 congressmen who voted in opposition to the other 399 to deny Israel the right to defend itself? Your white hood and red armband are showing.
119 posted on 10/18/2004 6:40:27 PM PDT by rantblogger (Rantblogger can be seen http://la4israel.org/wordpress)
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To: Little Bill

By today's standards, JFK was a neo-con, too.

Pity the Dems left that and became the party of Cynthia McKinney and Maxine Waters.


120 posted on 10/18/2004 6:43:42 PM PDT by rantblogger (Rantblogger can be seen http://la4israel.org/wordpress)
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