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What to make of this????
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Posted on 10/16/2004 5:26:01 PM PDT by Seeking to remain informed

RE: Flu vaccine


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioterrorism; flu; fluvaccine; vaccine
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To: Seeking to remain informed

I clicked on the Reuters link at the top of the page and read the story -- and then saw a link on their web page to a story "Pfizer links Bextra, some heart problems" -- but the link said "This story not available". I'd be interested in pursuing that story since I take Bextra. (I'm also aware of the recent Vioxx controversy.)


21 posted on 10/16/2004 5:39:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: Ciexyz

Knocked the crap outta my Merck stock i don't mind tellin ya


22 posted on 10/16/2004 5:40:45 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Seeking to remain informed
What SHOULD we make of it?

If the procedures were faulty, the vaccine could have killed far more people than the illness. Are you suspecting a deliberate tainting of the supply? That's a little too far out for me...

23 posted on 10/16/2004 5:43:05 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Seeking to remain informed
From Reuters -- "Crawford said whatever went wrong apparently affected everything Chiron made at the plant, which the California-based company acquired when it bought a British company called PowderJect."
24 posted on 10/16/2004 5:47:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Now it comes back after Googling...involved in those under-contact lens keratitis infections among other things: meningitis, sepsis, urinary tract, respiratory and soft tissue infections following surgery or trauma.

In 1819, Bartolomeo Bizio, a pharmacist from Padua, Italy, discovered and named S marcescens when he identified the bacterium as the cause of a miraculous bloody discoloration in a cornmeal mush called polenta. Bizio named Serratia in honor of an Italian physicist named Serrati, who invented the steamboat, and Bizio chose marcescens from the Latin word for decaying because the bloody pigment was found to deteriorate quickly.

25 posted on 10/16/2004 5:47:55 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Seeking to remain informed


I saw a clip of a new sKerry add yesterday that was blaming the president about the flu vaccine problems. I think that the dims are hoping that this issue will have some traction. Hopefully people are smart enough to know the truth.


26 posted on 10/16/2004 5:51:56 PM PDT by AllieOop
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To: Seeking to remain informed
"Serratia marcescens"

The article only gave the Genus Serratia, not the species. The presence of this indicates the outfit wasn't to particular about sterility. The fact the plant was closed, license suspended and all the doses were rejected as probably contaminated, supports that. Looks like the vaccine was produced by slobs that probably sneezed in the pot.

27 posted on 10/16/2004 5:54:05 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Seeking to remain informed

I think that we can assume that the products of companies in countries who have socialized medicine are going to be substandard.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 5:54:59 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: spunkets
Marcescens identifies the species as I understand it.
29 posted on 10/16/2004 5:56:07 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Admin Moderator

Please add [Contaminated Flu Vaccine] to the thread title.


30 posted on 10/16/2004 5:58:57 PM PDT by steve86
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To: spunkets
The article only gave the Genus Serratia, not the species.

I see what you are saying: the poster may have added the species.

31 posted on 10/16/2004 6:01:38 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BlindGuardian

"OH MY GOSH!
It's ALWAYS Bush's fault!"

Well yeah, we don't have Nixon to kick around anymore. Actully I think it's all sKerry's fault. If he'd been in his seat in the Senate and voting, none of this stuff would happen.

'cuse me, I don't feel well...


32 posted on 10/16/2004 6:03:09 PM PDT by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at be-headings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: Seeking to remain informed; BearWash

Check out this link, "Mail Handling in the Age of Bioterrorism," which lists Serratia marcescens among the goodies --

http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/biosafety/mail_handling.html


33 posted on 10/16/2004 6:05:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That web page is quite the compendium!


34 posted on 10/16/2004 6:07:36 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Texasforever

Just keep a lot of anti-bacterial soap or dish liquid around and wash your hands often, and you won't get sick..Use lysol on doorknobs and other places where people touch often.


35 posted on 10/16/2004 6:11:50 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Just keep a lot of anti-bacterial soap or dish liquid around and wash your hands often, and you won't get sick..

Not bad advice, but you might have to add DON'T BREATHE to that list to get full protection.

BTW, I've developed a really nasty sensitization to the Triclosan in those anti-bacterial soaps: Even if immediately rinsed off it causes deeps cracks and dermatitis on my fingers. I really do think it is overused.

36 posted on 10/16/2004 6:17:12 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BearWash

There are some good ones that skin doctors recommend, check into it....and use lots of cream to prevent drying. But PLEASE do breathe, that is necessary, LOL


37 posted on 10/16/2004 6:21:05 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Judith Anne; Domestic Church

Ping


38 posted on 10/16/2004 6:23:52 PM PDT by steve86
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To: AllieOop
Hopefully people are smart enough to know the truth

Exhibit A: Bill Clinton, elected twice. Case closed. A majority of Americans are morons.

39 posted on 10/16/2004 6:26:07 PM PDT by gnawbone
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To: BlindGuardian
Remember, if the grass grows too fast, it's Bush's fault.

But crab grass, well...crab grass has Kerry written all over it.

40 posted on 10/16/2004 6:26:13 PM PDT by grellis (Synchronize watches!!!)
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