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Bonds Used Steroids In 2003, Trainer Says On Secret Recording
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 16, 2004 | Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada

Posted on 10/16/2004 6:49:32 AM PDT by Founding Father

Bonds used steroids in 2003, trainer says on secret recording

Slugger's lawyer sees 'another below-the-belt bash'

Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada, Chronicle Staff Writers

Saturday, October 16, 2004

Barry Bonds was using an "undetectable" performance-enhancing drug during the 2003 baseball season, his weight trainer claimed in a conversation that was secretly recorded last year and provided to The Chronicle.

Trainer Greg Anderson, 38, who is Bonds' longtime friend and a defendant in the BALCO steroids conspiracy case, also said on the recording that he expected to receive advance warning before the San Francisco Giants superstar had to submit to a drug test under what was then baseball's new steroids-testing program.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asterisk; baseball; bondsbalco; gogiants; homeruns; mlb; nohalloffame; steriods
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Gee, what a surprise. Also, I thought this was a much needed break fro politics for a few minutes.

And to top it off, Henry Aaron is my favorite player and has been since he appeared on Captain Kangaroo somewhere around his 4/5th year playing for Milwaukee.

1 posted on 10/16/2004 6:49:33 AM PDT by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father

The trainer received advanced warning of drug testing? Must have been Dr. Hans Blix doing the testing...


2 posted on 10/16/2004 6:51:22 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Founding Father
...and Hammerin' Hank was never on the juice.

Barry Bonds can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.

3 posted on 10/16/2004 6:51:50 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Founding Father

LOL That's right up there with " What? Liberace was a queer? You've gotta be kidding"


4 posted on 10/16/2004 6:53:52 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (I'll turn in my guns when Jesus comes to collect them. In the meantime....)
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To: brewcrew
Here's my problem with the steroid controversy. If I can gain the mass that Bonds has without using steroids (which would take a little longer to achieve, but is doable), what's the big deal (in terms of records that is)?

If critics were primarily arguing about the health concerns or being a bad role model, I could listen to that. But when it comes to "your breaking my favorite player when I was a kid's record," I don't have that much sympathy for that point of view (especially when almost all records have been achieved by some environmental advantage).
5 posted on 10/16/2004 6:59:01 AM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: Founding Father

When someones face explodes to the size of a basketball it raises questions. I've gotta think that McGuire was not clean either along with Sosa that year they got into the 70's with HR's.


6 posted on 10/16/2004 6:59:56 AM PDT by oust the louse
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To: Founding Father

It's Bush's fault.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 7:00:52 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: Founding Father
I'm still not seeing how alleged steroid use helps a batter make contact with the ball.


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8 posted on 10/16/2004 7:02:48 AM PDT by rdb3 (How much are the Muslims paying Pat Buchanan?)
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To: Freepdonia
You've obviously Einsteined this thing to death. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.

Look what it does to the human body - I'm talking about negative side effects. Look at Ken Caminiti. Steroid use is wrong.

9 posted on 10/16/2004 7:02:49 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Freepdonia
Here's my problem with the steroid controversy. If I can gain the mass that Bonds has without using steroids (which would take a little longer to achieve, but is doable), what's the big deal (in terms of records that is)?

I think the big deal is that you'd have put in the years of work necessary to do so, while Bonds used a manufactured compound. Athletics relies on the concept of a level playing field; that isn't possible when steroids are introduced.

10 posted on 10/16/2004 7:04:27 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: brewcrew
Look at Ken Caminiti.

If anything, cocaine appears (though not confirmed yet) to have killed Caminiti.
11 posted on 10/16/2004 7:07:06 AM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: Founding Father
And to top it off, Henry Aaron is my favorite player and has been since he appeared on Captain Kangaroo somewhere around his 4/5th year playing for Milwaukee.

What a surprise indeed!

Speaking of Henry, if you take footage of him playing, and any of the players around that time, and set it side-by-side with modern day baseball game footage, you'd have to be a moron to think that many of the modern day players were not taking steroids. Even recent retirees, nobodies really in contrast, have admitted it.

The MLB has to be stupid to think that the average fan doesn't realize that something is up. It's almost cartoonish in some cases.

12 posted on 10/16/2004 7:08:00 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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I'm still not seeing how alleged steroid use helps a batter make contact with the ball.

Here's how I've heard it described: It makes good players great, and great players (Bonds) Hall of Famers and record breakers.

13 posted on 10/16/2004 7:11:44 AM PDT by rockinonritalin (nilatirnonikcor)
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To: NittanyLion
Athletics relies on the concept of a level playing field; that isn't possible when steroids are introduced.

This is my point. You can achieve the same results without using steroids. The thing that steroids do is repair your muscles faster after a workout (so you can work out more times during the week), not build you up by itself.

Maybe Bonds couldn't achieve Mr. America results without steroids, but he isn't close to that standard.

BTW, let me point out that the only drug I use is aspirin and hate the thought of needles. :-)
14 posted on 10/16/2004 7:13:20 AM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: Fruitbat

You don't even need to look at the 'old school' players. Just break out Mark McGuires rookie card, then look at a recent photo. 50 yrs of weight training won't do that when you don't have the "get mighty big" genes/frame. Actually, just wait until McGuire looks like Lyle Alzado when he was doing the talk show circuit, speaking out against 'roids ( and looking very ill)


15 posted on 10/16/2004 7:14:52 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (I'll turn in my guns when Jesus comes to collect them. In the meantime....)
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To: rockinonritalin
Here's how I've heard it described: It makes good players great, and great players (Bonds) Hall of Famers and record breakers.

Not a word of that addressed anything I said.


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16 posted on 10/16/2004 7:16:48 AM PDT by rdb3 (How much are the Muslims paying Pat Buchanan?)
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To: Fruitbat

Henry was like 6-0, 180, but still had enough pop to get the ball over the fence 755 times. He didn't hit that many tape-measure shots ... although there were a few, I think his longest was about 450 feet ... but he got 'em over the fence. Anyway, steroids certainly don't help a batter make contact, but they certainly could give him the added "oomph" to drive the ball into the stratosphere. That's the difference between then and now. Aaron just popped the ball over the fence. Bonds, etc., are all about tape-measure shots into the ocean. I think it's turned into something like long-driving contests in golf, where everybody yells "you the man" when somebody puts one into orbit and goes "ohhhhhh" if he only hits it 250 yards. And the fact that in the recent All-Star Game at Fenway Park, it was revealed that juiced balls were used in the home-run derby, shows that MLB sold its soul for this kind of stuff and when this really blows up about the time Bonds is closing in on Aaron, which should be a big, attention-grabbing time for the sport, Selig and his crew will be reaping the whirlwind instead.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 7:21:31 AM PDT by GB
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To: Founding Father

No sheeeeet...I would have never known! LMAO
And there's a certain guy who plays for the Cubs and a redhead who played for the Cardinals who are/were also on the juice too!

Their records should all have an asterisk beside their names.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 7:22:22 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: SirLurkedalot

Have you seen Mac recently? He's MUCH less muscular looking. Not compared to the average Joe walking the streets, mind you, but he isn't anywhere near as pumped looking as he was in his prime.


19 posted on 10/16/2004 7:23:42 AM PDT by GB
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To: Freepdonia

"If I can gain the mass that Bonds has without using steroids (which would take a little longer to achieve, but is doable), what's the big deal..."
I believe you are incorrect on this point. Muscle does not develop quickly. For an adult, especially for one in his middle 30s to early 40s,developing muscle is a long term process thar requires steady training as well as a specific eating pattern.
When one considers that Bond has been a trained athletic for over a quarter of a century, it would seem that developing a large increase in body muscle mass would be unlikely without the use of steroids.
It is easy to increase body mass at nearly any age for most people. Increasing muscle mass is another story that becomes more difficult with age, the exceptions being seen in both natural and juiced body builders. Such exceptions usually have an hereditary advantage and a strong will to maintain strict diet and training objectives.


20 posted on 10/16/2004 7:25:02 AM PDT by em2vn
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