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To: sinkspur; All

>> Unless you can propose an alternative, shut the hell up.

The alternative is obvious -- prison should be solitary confinement. What reason do prisoners have to communicate with other criminals? What good comes of it (outside of religious conversions)? How does it keep a prison environment safe?

>>You sound like a liberal do-gooder, great at identifying a problem but clueless on the solution.

And you sound like some of the pompous people around here with their rigid, condescending ideology.

Denial of the problem, or the gleeful acceptance of it is really a big part of the problem. Prison rape goes on essentially because it is allowed -- hence this man's lawsuit.

Imagine a situation where a prison guard rapes an inmate. Would you say there is nothing wrong with this? Probably not, but I wish to underscore something. Prison is its own society, and even in that society justice must prevail. Yet, we let gangsters make the rules up in that society, and we let rape go unpunished and unchecked in that society.

If it's wrong for a prison guard to rape someone, is it right for an inmate to rape another?

One of the main roles of the Government is to protect the defenseless and weak. This role does not stop at the prison walls.

There are several solutions possible:
* Solitary confinement
* Mixed association (blacks, hispanics, etc)
* Segmentation of the population (Ie, don't mix 6'5 290 lb men with 5'3 125 lb men -- guess who's gonna get raped?)
* Additional Prison guards mixed in the population (not sitting on their duffs behind a desk)
* Better categorization of criminals (what was this guy doing at such a place? Seems he belonged more in a work camp envioronment)
* Prosecution of rapists including chemical castration and or death penality (for protection of society)

There are many possible solutions, but as long as people are ambivolent about prison rape, nothing will ever happen and the prison gangs will have a field day.






Why don't you volunteer at your local jail to go watch these "gentlemen" to make sure they stay off each other?


41 posted on 10/16/2004 7:08:05 AM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom; HostileTerritory
You boys get right on this. Go to your local state prison board and tell them you are dedicating one year of your lives to reforming your own state's prisons. See what the board tells you.

Next, go to your legislator, and demand that he do something about prison rape and that he enact 1stFreedoms recommendations. See what he tells you.

Update us on your progress in a month.

45 posted on 10/16/2004 7:13:33 AM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: 1stFreedom
One of the main roles of the Government is to protect the defenceless and weak.

Sorry, but the historical record demonstrates that Government preys on the defenceless and weak. No succour to be found there.

Prisons are not the solution to a problem, but a further means of socializing Americans to accept the brutal realities of modern state socialism.

The chief aim of modern Government is to institutionalize the entire population under their management. Prisons, schools, the health system, care in old age - every organ fulfils its respective role.

Gotta nurture those 'human resources'.

50 posted on 10/16/2004 7:20:41 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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