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This story provides a vision of hell. People go into jail for minor crimes and come out physically and emotionally shattered and carrying deadly diseases because people (incl. California's Democrat AG) think this kind of thing is a joke. Our country and states must do more to stop this.
1 posted on 10/16/2004 6:35:03 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
Here's the bottom line:

- Prisons are full of violent people (even if not all those in prison are violent).
- Violent people can only be controlled by superior violence or the threat of that violence.
- In name of "civil rights", a liberal/leftist cabal of lawyers, courts, journalists and social activists have tipped the balance against those who we charge with running are prisons.
- Now that prison officials have been stripped of the ability to truly control their own prisons, the prisoners themselves control much of daily prison life.

Should anyone be honestly surprised by the consequences: that the most violent prisoners rule the lives of the less violent prisoners? When the same leftist cabal now start pointing their finger, someone should tell them where to shove that pointing finger. DON'T LET THE LEFT (INCLUDING YOUR NYTIMES) BLAME PRISON OFFICIAL!

60 posted on 10/16/2004 7:41:06 AM PDT by drpix
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You know, I responded to this post with the fact that I have a real understanding of this issue. Coco is a fraud, because s/he knew she was to be a "punk" when s/he got to prison. It wasn't sexual slavery. For some reason the Moderators don't like to see comments that have real understanding instead of the bravatto that I hear on this topic.

As a new person, and a dollar a day member, who has made several other contributions to this board, I'm quite offended that a post that was well within the TOS of this board was censored for no known reason.


61 posted on 10/16/2004 7:41:29 AM PDT by politicalmerc (I just want to make ignorance painful.)
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The wardens and guards must be held responsible for the safety of their prisoners. The US Constitution bans cruel and unusual punishment. I can't see why so many of us condone queer rape gangs terrorizing the prisoners. I don't want my tax money funding queer fun in jail, and I doubt the intelligence of people who are in favor of homosexual rape being acceptable in prison.

Their sons might be one 'lapse in judgement' away from a stint in prison, and they laugh this off.

63 posted on 10/16/2004 7:44:34 AM PDT by GhostofWCooper
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He went in gay, most likely, he did a few tricks to gain favor, then found himself in somehting he did not expect, to be EVERYBODY'S girlfriend.

This is NOT a story of a straight man getting raped, this is a story of a gay man who most likely did the first few gay sex encounters willingly.


66 posted on 10/16/2004 7:46:57 AM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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From the article:

"The inmates at the Allred Unit, a tough Texas prison, mostly go by names like Monster, Diablo and Animal. They gave Roderick Johnson, a black gay man with a gentle manner ...

How "gentle" could this guy have been for him to end up in a "tough Texas prison"? What did Johnson do?

75 posted on 10/16/2004 7:56:56 AM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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I am sickened by what happens in prison. This problem cannot be unsolvable, it just needs to be seriously addressed. Seems to me prisons could be designed better. Put video surveillance in every single room. Have more and smaller prisons. Move inmates around to different prisons every couple years to prevent the gang mentality. Prisons should be a model of law and order, not the opposite. I don't believe the purpose of prison is punishment. The purpose should be deterrence and public safety. I wish there was more political will to improving the whole system.


113 posted on 10/16/2004 8:56:21 AM PDT by dumpdaschle (Senator Tim Johnson (Dem, SD) says that I belong to the Taliban wing of the Republican party.)
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I have some reservations about the truth of this story.

Texas prisons were under the control of a Federal judge and his monitors until very recently. During the almost twenty years of Federal control a lot of rules were put into the system to prevent this sort of thing.

1.Gangs were forbidden and identifed gang members were placed in isolated confinement. This doesn't mean that gangs didn't exist in secret, but their power was limited by the tough rules against them.

2.Openly gay prisoners are routinely put into separate protected gay cell blocks if they request that action to prevent just this sort of problem. Although its possible a request would be turned down, it doesn't sound right. The prison system doesn't want these problems and more prisoner lawsuits. Prisoners are very adept at bringing "pro se" lawsuits in Federal courts for the slightest breach of rules or civil rights.

As a result, the gay cell blocks are much like San Francisco bathhouses--even though there are penalties for sexual acts--because the guards either tolerate it or because the cellblocks are impossible to police every minute. There are lots of gay couples in these blocks.

3.There is no visiting among cell blocks, so a gang member having a "maid" and sexual slave in his cell seems unlikely if not impossible unless the 'slave' was his randomly assigned cellmate by accident. Hot pots are not allowed for safety reasons.

Inmates do not choose their cellmates because of a ACLU suit that banned segregation of inmates by race--and also because the system doesn't want to give the inmates that much power.

3.Any sexual activity is forbidden and penalties imposed. There are always those who seek opportunities for sexual behavior in showers and during work and recreation periods however, providing they could escape the vigilant eye of the guards. But its virtually impossible to stop all sexual activity, especially between consenting inmates, so this part of the story could be true.

4. As beargirl90 currently works with both the Federal and Texas penal systems, perhaps she can confirm if these observations are still generally true. Of course, any general observation may not take into account variations between different prison units which occur because of different personnel and management rather than because of different rules.


119 posted on 10/16/2004 9:31:30 AM PDT by wildbill
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8 “Our country and states must do more to stop this.”

You are correct that there is simply no excuse for such criminality, in prison or out.

Don't let those who say "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime", or "one way to stop it is for criminals to not commit crimes", get you down. What they are really telling you by their tolerance (support) for prison rape is just their expression of their own demented latent homosexual fantasies in the only way that is still considered to be marginally socially acceptable.

Their is no excuse for tolerating prison rape. You teach what you tolerate.

--Boot Hill

120 posted on 10/16/2004 9:33:43 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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Why are the "Gangster's" running the prison???
I thought prison was a place where you lost all rights. Maybe they will have prom's next.


123 posted on 10/16/2004 9:47:29 AM PDT by Isabelle
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The bottom line is that when people are sentenced to prison, being anally raped is not part of that sentence. People who commit rapes in prison need to be put in isolation/or sentenced to breaking rocks all day for the rest of their lives.


138 posted on 10/16/2004 10:52:14 AM PDT by Hacksaw (You can judge a man by the members of his bump list.)
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I am rereading The Hot House : Life Inside Leavenworth Prison by Pete Earley, written in the early 90s. Well worth reading.
139 posted on 10/16/2004 11:19:23 AM PDT by jordan8
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