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Representatives of Bush, Kerry Debate Space
space.com ^ | 15 Oct 04 | Colin Clark

Posted on 10/15/2004 9:15:23 AM PDT by RightWhale

Representatives of Bush, Kerry Debate Space

By Colin Clark Space News Staff Writer

posted: 15 October 2004 11:44 am ET

WASHINGTON -- It may not have had the global audience of the last Bush-Kerry debate, but about 100 members of the civil space community watched with rapt attention as representatives of the two campaigns conducted a spirited debate Oct. 14 about the future of space between representatives of the two campaigns. Former NASA associate administrator for policy and plans, Lori Garver, represented Sen. John Kerry. Frank Sietzen, an aerospace journalist, represented President George Bush.

Kerry would adopt “a strong and balanced” approach between space exploration and other NASA missions, Garver told the gathering, sponsored by Women in Aerospace and the Washington Space Business Roundtable. Exploration, she said later in the debate, would be “but one goal among many.”

A Bush victory would offer “an unprecedented opportunity for change and new opportunities in space,” Sietzen said, stressing the Bush goal of returning to the moon by 2020 and planning a mission to Mars. Much of the debate between Garver and Sietzen centered on the question of whether the vision for human and robotic space exploration outlined by Bush in January should dominate NASA’s future. NASA faces “a huge risk we can lose what we have now if we do this one thing,” Garver argued. A Kerry administration, instead, would “probably” boost research and development funding at NASA.

Sietzen told the audience that the United States needs “to go to the moon right now,” and should embrace Bush’s vision of exploration.

Garver decried what she called “the most partisan NASA in history” under Bush, accusing the administration of drawing up its exploration plans in secret without consulting Democrats. Kerry would, she added “work to depoliticize space.” If elected, Kerry’s first acts on space would be to appoint leaders at NASA to “restore the public’s confidence and (the agency’s) credibility,” she said. Sietzen replied that NASA Administrator Sean O’Keefe, had excellent access to the White House, meeting with the president or vice president almost every other day.

To improve what she said was “a low point in our cooperative ventures in space,” Kerry would strive to work more closely with international partners, making sure they were included in deliberations, Garver said. She specifically criticized Bush for not consulting with the International Space Station partners as the new vision for NASA was being formulated throughout 2003. Sietzen countered, claiming “70 discussions were underway around the world.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: debate; nasa; vision
No debate of private property rights.
1 posted on 10/15/2004 9:15:24 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale

Does Kerry have a plan for Space?


2 posted on 10/15/2004 9:19:43 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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To: RightWhale
Private property rights aside, the real problem with our space effort is that space has no real constituency. Most people don't care about it and would just say "spend the money on education" or something like that.

How much can we really spend on space when nobody cares?

Of course, saying you don't care about space is like saying you don't care about the future, but that's the way it is.

3 posted on 10/15/2004 9:25:17 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
Private property rights aside, the real problem with our space effort is that space has no real constituency.

That is exactly it. There is no constituency because there are no private property rights.

4 posted on 10/15/2004 9:27:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: RightWhale
What are we talking about here? Mining rights, or 40 acres and a mule? I hope you're not making the mistake of thinking about space like it's the American West in the 1800s, and people go homesteading. That's not going to happen. There's no air out there, for starters.

There where no private property rights during the Apollo era, when space exploration was fully funded. I agree with you in principal, but we need vision even more, and visionary missions.

5 posted on 10/15/2004 9:38:35 AM PDT by Batrachian
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There's no air out there, for starters.

An engineering problem. There are plenty of the materials to make air out there, and there is a lot of water in the solar system.

As to property rights, no major investment institution can invest without collateral, there is no collateral, so there will be no major private investment. Deduction, no stronger argument. It's in the President's Committee Report.

6 posted on 10/15/2004 9:44:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Semper Paratus
Yea... acquiring golf courses by eminent domain and erecting federally subsidized housing. Lot'sa space there!
7 posted on 10/15/2004 10:30:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Lick my ball-sweat Lady Astor!!” -Winston Churchill)
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