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You are not going to believe this! It's too much! Now they are relying on Vietnamese,former Vietcong! Hopefully, someone else has seen all of this. I missed most of it. Ted keeps asking O'Neill why he won't believe these Vietnamese pesants!
1 posted on 10/14/2004 9:07:29 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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In Koppel's closing comment, he said something to the effect of the Vietnamese confirming what was said in the award citation and after-action report, and I was waiting for what he DID NOT say: that they DISAGREE with what sKerry himself said, in boston globe book and in Tour of Doody. Of course, that would actually be reporting EVERYTHING, in an accurate manner, which he claims is what they're doing, but not. This just goes to show the bias in the reporting by Koppel/ABC.

He then goes on, after the whole spiel of using former VC's to confirm the AA report and citation, that they HAD to report whatever they found, and to do so would be wrong. Fair enough Ted, and it would've been fine if you yourself mentioned also what you found disagreed with what sKerry's people have said about the incident, which you didn't. When O'neil brought that up, and pointed NOT at Unfit for Command, but books that sKerry's people wrote, all Ted could do was ask, "why would these people lie", for crying out loud Ted, you're not THAT stupid and gullible?! Well, maybe you are...


30 posted on 10/14/2004 9:24:31 PM PDT by billiamy
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Kerry's crew got 2 Bronze Stars and 3 Navy Commendation Medals for this same action! This is his band of brothers!
Six medals awarded by Kerry to himself and his crew!
Is it any wonder that the "press" is not interviewing Kerry's crew!


31 posted on 10/14/2004 9:25:36 PM PDT by Bob from De (Scaramouche = Cowardly Braggart.......fits perfectly!)
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I THINK THE DATE ON THE GRAVE SHOWN IN THE PIECE WAS MAY '69 NOT FEB '69


33 posted on 10/14/2004 9:27:07 PM PDT by GIDYUUP
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Koppel wasn't even satisfied with Kerry's own account via Kranish, or via Doug Brinkley. If it came from Vietnamese villagers with Vietnamese government officials observing over their shoulder, then that must be the best evidence, in Koppel's judgement. Liberal snobs like Koppel are so far up Kerry's butt, I don't how they even breath.


34 posted on 10/14/2004 9:28:20 PM PDT by RBMN
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I only saw a piece of it but it confirmed for me the kind of low life Koppel is. The first, last, and every question in between should be, why hasn't Kerry released all his records.

Clinton lied to his face and they applauded.

I must say Koppel was wearing a nice blue dress for Kerry but I don't think he let any DNA slip from his lips.


35 posted on 10/14/2004 9:30:20 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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This kind of sinister journalism really bothers me because it's dangerous. When a recognized national journalist willingly wants to believe communist witnesses over American heros, then it's time to bring the MSM to their knees by every legal tactic available.


39 posted on 10/14/2004 9:32:18 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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Give me a break! First ABC is not let in Vietnam. Then after enough time to get all the relevant information to make up a story, the Vietnamese let ABC News in the country. ABC News even mentioned that they were accompanied the entire time by a female political officer which they showed sitting on the bow of the boat. And we are suppose to accept a story from the Vietcong about one of their war heroes..., John Kerry?
Are we really suppose to believe that any of these people would tell any other story than what they were told to say with a political officer present?
What a joke. Ted Koppel is a fool and an idiot!
42 posted on 10/14/2004 9:36:24 PM PDT by MedicalMess
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Did Abc look into the background of the peasants in this story? Of course not. Do they know if they tortured and killed Americans? Of course not. Do they even know their real names? Of course not. There is no way to "vet" these people and yet they take their word over a group of American Citizens, Soldiers and heros! I think they do not realize how easy it is to see right through this kind of flimsy reporting.


44 posted on 10/14/2004 9:36:46 PM PDT by elizabetty
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1245251/posts


45 posted on 10/14/2004 9:37:44 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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The thing that really pisses me off about this is that the rest of the main slime media will use this "report" as "proof" that Unfit for Command has been "thoroughly discredited"
47 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:12 PM PDT by TheHube
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John O'Neill shocked Teddy boy with his "reference library" and correctly pointed out that Teddy was giving credence to people who may have been coerced over Kerry's own words in Brinkley's autobiography of Kerry, the Boston Globe biography of Kerry, and the Swiftboat Vets stories from those who were there.

Quote of the interview " Ted, you've been had!"

Ted made a half hearted effort to talk about the "after- action reports" and the Silver Star commendation--I yelled at the TV--which commendation, Ted, there were three of them!!"

In addition, Ted didn't mention the machine gunner on Kerry's boat, who is deceased, in 1996 or 1997 told the whole story of shooting the VC kid first, then brave Kerry jumped off and basically shot in cold blood a wounded prisoner of war.

What is amazing is how we Freepers, who have taken the time to get the facts, know so much more than the vaunted Nightline, who tonight, was exposed for the shoddy reporting Democratic Kerry shills that they are.

And this was but one easily rebutted example of their bias and of their intentionally incomplete, unprofessional reporting.

It makes me wonder as to the extent of all of the lies I have been told by the MSM in the last 50 years.


48 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:49 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation...... Proverbs 14:34)
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I watched the whole thing as well. The Dems will see it as vindication, but to my mind it was an obvious scam.
1. "Independent local producer contacted us."
2. Present Vietnam government decided to go along after they got drift of what the reporters were up to.
3. The purpose was to vindicate a presidential candidate that was their single most influential ally 35 years in the propaganda war in the streets of the US.
4. As O'Neill points out Kerry is honored as a hero of their side in their war museum.
5. All talking is with local peasants who supposedly were Viet Cong 35 years ago, interpreted by the official Vietnam government "monitor" along for the purpose.
6. Everyone "remembers" details including the name of the visiting RPG toting VC, even though he was not a local, there for only a day or so, etc."
7. Granny just happens to have the VC arms still buried under her garden 35 years later (although they didn't bother to dig to prove it) and admits it to (through) the government monitor. [Who would believe that a peasant with a bunch of automatic weapons hidden for 35 years in a communist country casually tells the government about it and noone thinks anything of it!?!?]

Instead of Ted Koppel's straight-faced Dan Rather moment, "We only reported what we found, if we had found Kerry exaggerated we would have reported it straight, like we always do..blah, blah,blah...."
I would have rather have John Stossel saying, "Give me a break!"


53 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:49 PM PDT by Jerry W. Howard
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I got the impression that neither Koppel nor Oneill were interested in finding the truth.

Who can trust any of the methodology of the MSM? I think O'neill saw an ambush having to discuss within the context that ABC had created by their report.

Neither one came off too well.


55 posted on 10/14/2004 9:51:53 PM PDT by Paraclete
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"ABC Nightline now in Vietnam trying to defend Kerry by interviewing Vietnamese. Also arguing with John O'Neill."

Ironic how they're now traveling to Vietnam to ask Communists if they like John Kerry or not. LOL. And they think this will help him get elected President?

70 posted on 10/14/2004 10:20:46 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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I just wrote about this and sent it to Drudge, Rush and Hannity. Kerry lied in his military reports and book interviews. That date on the tombstone doesn't add up either.


71 posted on 10/14/2004 10:25:54 PM PDT by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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