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JOHN O'NEILL ON NIGHTLINE TONIGHT (Dems are e-mailing Ted Koppel to stop it!)
Nightline e-mail ^ | 10/14/04

Posted on 10/14/2004 1:55:15 PM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
LOL!
I love your terminology!
"Taken apart and thrown in the garbage disposal!"
441 posted on 10/15/2004 1:03:10 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: All
Whose tomb is this supposed to be a picture of? According to the Nightline story, The Vietnamese "witnesses" claimed the VC Kerry's gunner shot was named Ba Thanh and he was 26 or 27. The tomb says "Luu_V_Phom" and "LIFT SI". What does that mean?

Does "N SINH 1946" mean the person was born in 1946? Someone born in 1946 would have been 22 or 23 in 1969, depending on his or her birthday.
442 posted on 10/15/2004 1:06:08 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: capitan_refugio

Why were numbers used for the date he died and something different except for the year to date his birth...or at least I assume that is what that is.

Also, does anyone know what that symbol that is like a
7 H stuck together means?


443 posted on 10/15/2004 1:07:24 AM PDT by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: areafiftyone

Inre: The date on the headstone.

Three words...

"Baby Milk Factory"


444 posted on 10/15/2004 1:08:05 AM PDT by JakeINJoisey
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To: capitan_refugio; All

* * * PLEASE READ * * *

As others have said, the date on the headstone may be correct and before we cry foul on something that can prove to be legitimate, we should focus on the fact that of course the date is correct because the entire episode was produced and directed by the Communist party.

Remember, ABCNews asks for permission to (a) enter their country to do a report about Senator Kerry (b) at precise coordinates outlined in this report (c) about an incident that is detailed in a book (d) that took place on such and such date. The Government turned them away ...Three months later, with a little research and prep time, ABCNews was let back in to do their report.

The Communist regime remembers that Kerry has been sympathetic to them and that he is also a declared hero in their country, so they have an opportunity to get in good with him and pander to their people.

A generation ago, a foreign country trying to influence an election in our country, would have been an act of war. On October 14, 2004, the biases of ABCNews and Ted Koppel were used against them, as their blind search for evidence to disprove the Swift Vet claims allowed the Communist Government of Vietnam to plant a story in order to buy off John Kerry.

ABCNews and Nightline probably didn't realize what was happening, but because they set out to find a story to fit their agenda, it was an open invitation to the Vietnamese Government to influence November's election.

Focus on the big picture!!

Vietnam would forever hold this over John Kerry. They would threaten the exposure of the truth unless they are given certain concesions. Communists just tried to buy John Kerry and used Ted Koppel as their salesman. Bias has become a weapon. This goes way beyond the Swift Vets.


445 posted on 10/15/2004 1:35:57 AM PDT by dannyboy72 (it's time to take on the media)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"The interview was surreal, Ted was getting pummeled repeatedly "

It was as I said earlier - "a 'reverse set-up'"

Ted used the first 25 minutes setting it all up figuring on a "Super Ted" quick and easy kill.

O'Neill nailed him coming in the door with references tagged, tabbed and ready to go (though maybe he did flash them once to often) and he was just waitin'!

Ted was stuck on his stool with a handful of scripted notes -- only no one gave O'Neill the script and there was Ted stuck with the "deer in the headlights" look and absolutely no out as O'Neill just poured it on. Talk about a one-man wrecking crew!

O'Neill was only half right when he said "you've been had"

More correctly it should be "Ted, you were had and now you've been caught!"


Once again I say: In the swirl of s*** in the bottom of the cosmic crapper of MSM "journalism" is that Ted I hear hollering: "Don't worry Dan, I've got your back..."

446 posted on 10/15/2004 1:38:16 AM PDT by theoldChief (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom)
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To: woodb01

same reason bump


447 posted on 10/15/2004 1:40:06 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: showpromid


I tended to be a little more blunt in my e-mail:


just watched Nightline, thanks...
(I figure that subject line will at least get opened)


...ABC. That. along with the Halperin memo confirms to me you're all about equal to the scumbag known as Dan Rather...

but since you're all trying to install a traitor as CIC it's not like it wasn't expected

keep watching Fox ratings going up while your's keeps dropping, you just lost yet another viewer-needless to say your advertisers and the FCC will hear my complaints...



I didn't bother to sign it and I do plan to e-mail the FCC and complain-FWIW...

does anybody have the advertiser list compiled yet?






448 posted on 10/15/2004 1:47:00 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (Jean Fraud Kerry-the Botox BoatWarrior,"oh no, aground again and huge riceberg approaching")
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To: Smoote

I listened to the audio of the Nightline story on the Swiftees website. I think this grave is not of the VC Kerry allegedly shot, but of the husband of "Huyan Tee Sung" (phonetic spelling), one of 7 VC that Koppel claims was killed that day. Is this correct? It should be about 6-8 minutes into the story, if you have it saved.


449 posted on 10/15/2004 1:47:35 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The side by sides with the citations is great. I hadn't seen it presented this way before. Thanks.


450 posted on 10/15/2004 2:01:30 AM PDT by Dutchgirl (Burma shave!)
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To: conservative in nyc

I'm curious about the independent producer who has spent the past 25 years in and out of vietnam. He speaks fluent vietnamese. He approached ABC offering his help. Very suspicious if you ask me. I think his name is Kyle Harris or Hurst?


451 posted on 10/15/2004 2:03:42 AM PDT by Smoote
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To: showpromid
you went to a country that is a closed, communist society, no doubt led by government handlers, and reported what you were told without a bit of skepticism. That's not journalism, sir, that's propaganda

No question about it. Koppel constantly and derisively objected, in his snooty tone, that why would a bunch of peasants want to verify part of Kerry's story? Well, they didn't. Kerry spoke of a lone gunman. They spoke of a pitched battle. No one else spoke of a pitched battle. But apparently they were in one, and never knew it, until now. Kerry was particularly oblivious to all this. And he's the reason it's important, one of their own national heroes, and why the Vietnamese put these folks up to this. Funny - the 'fogawar'. Or is that just the fog above Ted's brainstem?

O'Neill had it just right. Koppel should be ashamed. he's not a 'journalist', whatever that even means, these days. He's a propagandist, eager to believe personal reports from those living in a controlled, terrorized Communist society, with minders from the government looking over these people's shoulders as they speak on camera. Never mind, that their principal 'witnesses', were former VC themselves. That's why they claim to have been there. They were the ones shooting at the Americans and South Vietnamese. Koppel has unapologetically and even condescendingly become a mouthpiece for Vietnamese Communist propaganda. THAT . . is a fair assessment. That is EXACTLY what happened last night.

CHOKE ON THIS - TED! AND EVERY COMMIE MINDER

BUSH BY 8% IN NOV, 320+ ELECTORAL VOTES


452 posted on 10/15/2004 2:05:59 AM PDT by sevry
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To: dannyboy72
As others have said, the date on the headstone may be correct and before we cry foul on something that can prove to be legitimate, we should focus on the fact that of course the date is correct because the entire episode was produced and directed by the Communist party.

I think the date may be correct. c.f. Calender convertor. If you put in 28 Th. 2 1969 you get 12/1

However conservative_in_nyc posted... How do you know it was not one of the other VC killed on the day? How do you know that this is even the right village?

Also what are the chances that the same "peasants" have stayed in the same village for the last 35 years?

It is in North Vietnam's interests to get Kerry elected. They must have so much dirt on Kerry, that I'm sure they can "persuade" him to do anything.
453 posted on 10/15/2004 2:07:01 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: FairOpinion
And just like Dan Rather, Koppel actually demanded O'Neill address the substance of the comments made by the Communist Viet-cong "peasants" even though their charges were obviously phony which O'Neill had just proved! Koppel even said the old man and his wife disagreed on what happened.

What a piece of crap. My email congratulated Koppel on living up to the Mark Halperin memo.

454 posted on 10/15/2004 2:17:43 AM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: onyx
Just like in '92 when Koppel did a "report" based on a Sy Hersch hit piece in the New Yorker that claimed "new evidence" charging GHW Bush with actually firing on (and murdering) innocent Japanese fishermen, and not the enemy, during his tour as the youngest fighter pilot in WWII.

So when the Left-wing trashes a genuine war hero...Koppel swallows it whole without a single word given in Bush's defense.

455 posted on 10/15/2004 2:23:38 AM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Chieftain
Ping!

I thought you might be interested in this. I missed the show, but the thread is worth a read. Soon," professional journalism" will have all the credibility of "professional wrestling".

456 posted on 10/15/2004 2:28:34 AM PDT by Dutchgirl (Professional Journalism "Can you smell what a crock they're cookin'?)
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To: theoldChief

Remember McCain backed Kerry up all the way on the POWs and MIAs. The families and Senator Bob Smith would furious.


457 posted on 10/15/2004 2:28:46 AM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Deb


THAT is news to me!
Both the Sy Hersh smear and Koppel's report.

So this hit piece is NOTHING new for Ted.
Figgers.

Thank God for John O'Neill.
He trounced Ted.


458 posted on 10/15/2004 2:28:54 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: areafiftyone

I'll just bet the dems are emialing fast and furiously for Koppel to stop it, with an autoresponder to make it more efficient.


459 posted on 10/15/2004 2:29:34 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (keep your eye on the donut not on the hole)
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To: mykroar

Soooo .. lets see if I have this straight ..??

Kerry wanted to verify that he really earned his Silver Star .. since the Swift Vets have called into question Kerry's integrity, and have exposed the false stories Kerry has previously told to earn the purple heart medals.

Did ABC agree to MAKE IT HAPPEN? ABC goes to a communist country; the NV will not let them into the country. However, suddenly .. without explanation .. they finally give their approval. ABC finds North Vietnamese villagers who (even with a minder) are able to tell some fantastic story about Kerry's heroism (in great detail - after 35 years). And .. they have a grave to prove it .. except the grave marker says January 12, 1969, and the incident for the Silver Star happened in February 1968.

It's no wonder Ted Koppel was so mad at John O'Neill because John would not capitulate to Koppel's demands to accept the new information regarding the Silver Star. O'Neill wouldn't accept it because there were 3 other pieces of documentation (2 of them from Kerry) stating a different story than the one on the after action report.

The new information is that the young person Kerry was forced to kill was not a teen, but was a 26 year old soldier from NV, and he was the leader of a group of about 12 other officers who were firing at the Kerry boat. There may be other issues, but the age of the person and whether or not he was alone seem to be the main issues of contention between the different accounts of the incident.

The problem: Kerry's after action report is the only documentation for the story on niteline. The Boston Globe and Tour of Duty books both have the original story that there was only a wounded teen, and according to John O'Neill, that is the story Steve Gardner (Kerry's gunner) also tells.

O'Neill was justified in being angry that Koppel had not interviewed any of the other American Swift Boat veterans who were there during the incident, but that ABC had relied instead on former enemies of America to use to fabricate Kerry's after action report.

This illegal activity is collusion between a media group and a presidential campaign. Collusion and deceit perpetrated upon the American people in order to affect an election. There is no difference between this and what CBS did. CBS used forged documents and ABC used FAKE witnesses.

JUST HOW MUCH LOWER ARE THE DEMOCRATS GOING TO STOOP BEFORE THEY FALL OFF THE CLIFF INTO THE ABYSS?

Check the blog stopdemocrats.com tomorrow and read my expanded story about this.


460 posted on 10/15/2004 3:03:44 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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