Judge rules in Ohio ballot-casting case

seattlepi.com ^ | October 14, 2004 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

[demlosers]

This is going to get ugly isn't it? Rats are already sreaming voter fraud everywhere... Lawyers and courts will decide this one as well I am afraid.

My guess, the Dems are trying to make up for fraud vote they could do with punchcard voting. The poor Dem operative can't take a stack of punchcards, line up the perferated holes, then punchout the chads. Recently, Ohio went to computer voting, so now they need a black box hacker.

[Mo1]

I do very little research on this and I live in an area with plenty of polling locations, yet I have never shown up at the wrong location. How does someone get this confused?

Years ago when I moved to where I live now .. I learned that went to the wrong polling place because my name was not in the book .. I was then directed to the correct one that was located 2 blocks away

Why poll workers in Ohio can't do this is beyond me

[z3n]

(suplimental)(theorizing) So, what we have here is fraudulent voters are going to try to use the confusion of showing up at the wrong polling place in order to either record multiple votes under one identity, record votes for dead people or others who they have registered to vote but whom they are not, or voting for fictitious people using some system contribed by DNC operatives. Then, the DNC lawyers will be there to help gang up on poll workers who request that the individual show a valid registration card and/or picture ID. Those forces working on concert will coerce the poll worker that they are disenfranchising the voter and thus force them to cave to allowing them to vote.

Then with tens of thousands of fraudulant votes being recorded in initial ballot counts (before all of the fraudulent votes are weeded out by the system), the initial vote counts will show that Kerry won Ohio. (...and this it the goal of the DNC)). After the local offices come back with heavily revised counts for the official tallies, and Bush ends up winning Ohio, out come the lawyers and lawsuits!

[jdm]

"TOLEDO, Ohio -- In a victory for the Democrats, a federal judge ruled Thursday that Ohio voters who show up at the wrong polling place on Election Day can still cast ballots as long as they are in the county where they are registered."

I think I'm going to show up at the Taco Bell on the corner of Secor and Central and place my vote. What's the big deal? (sarcasm)

[rwfromkansas]

Any news on an appeal?

[My Favorite Headache]

We can all thank Al Gore for this kind of shit.

[The Old Hoosier]

So they can vote in a different congressional district? Total BS.

[dartuser]

WHY THE HELL CANT WE USE THE PURPLE INK THAT THE AFGAN PEOPLE USED !!!!

YOU VOTE, YOU GET MARKED !!!!

YOU CANT VOTE AGAIN !!!!

[w1andsodidwe]

Provisional ballots where you attach your personal information. If it was found later that you had voted in more than one place your ballot would not count.

Of course the election would be long over and were not going to overturn it after the fact, are we?

[The Old Hoosier]

Actually, this should not be a problem for provisional ballots, since I think you do need to present some kind of ID to vote provisionally, and the votes are counted separately and only if there are enough to change the result. However, it is a problem for fraudulent registrations.

[muskah]

This is no big deal. A provisional ballot only counts when it is validated by Board of Elections after the election as a legit vote. When people see what is involved in casting a provisional ballot most will opt to go the correct pct. If they have moved and not told the BOE then they have to vote provisional. It will only be counted IF they were registered somewhere in the state and only those races and issues also on the ballot where they now live will be counted if they vote anywhere else. I am glad I am not the one to review the prov. ballots. This is how it is in MD.

[DarkWaters]

Looks like my state is going to be a Florida in the making. What BS that is coming from these corrupt judges. They might as well have ruled that voter fraud is legal.

[Nathan Zachary]

What should be done then, is that those that show up at a different polling station, be pulled aside, the polling officer determine where they are supposed to go, then phone that station, and have their name crossed off the other list.
This might also be a good way to make instant arressts.
There is a way to stop the Democrats from cheating if the will to do so is there.

[Nathan Zachary]

and a dab of purple dye so they can't vote twice.

[Clump]

this will have to be appealed to the federal circuit court that includes Ohio. This was a ruling from a Federal judge. This is a clear intrusion upon the states right to conduct fair elections.

[UsnDadof8]

This may sound like a dumb question, but why can't they just get directions to the correct polling place and GO there ??

[Clump]

If they cheat and narrowly win Ohio (and that makes the difference in the electoral college), then we have no choice but to challenge the results. It will be fairly easy to see based on the numbers we see coming from each county.

[esarlls3]

Ok, everyone. This is much ado about nothing. Well, almost nothing.

"The judge said that voters who show up at the wrong polling place after moving without notifying the elections board, and those whose names cannot be found on the registration rolls, should be able to cast provisional ballots there. "

The Help America Vote Act says everyone who wants to vote can vote. If they are not properly registered in your precinct, they vote a Provisional Ballot. You cannot turn anyone away who wants to vote there.

However, the provisional ballots are not counted on election night. Within a few weeks after the election, the Provisional Ballot Review Board, with representatives from each party, would determine whether each voter was eligible to vote or not and add these votes to the final count.

The only problem I see is if someone wanted to really mess things up, they could have their people vote in every precinct and use up all the Provisional Ballot forms. Of course they would then need to move before their crime was discovered to evade prosecution.

Note that even undocumented workers without ID can come in and request a provisional ballot. It will not be counted but could mess up the system.

[antivenom]

discriminates against the poor and minorities DUMBASSES

[MRoss]

Carr, James G.
Born 1940 in Boston, MA

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Northern District of Ohio
Nominated by William J. Clinton on January 27, 1994, to a seat vacated by Richard B. McQuade, Jr.; Confirmed by the Senate on May 6, 1994, and received commission on May 9, 1994.

Education:
Kenyon College, B.A., 1966

Harvard Law School, LL.B., 1969

Professional Career:
Private practice, Chicago, Illinois, 1966-1968
Staff attorney, Cook County Legal Assistance Foundation, Illinois, 1968-1970
Adjunct professor, Chicago-Kent College of Law, Illinois Institute of Technology, 1969
Adjunct professor, Loyola University, Chicago, School of Law, 1970
Associate professor, University of Toledo College of Law, 1970-1979
Assistant prosecutor, Lucas County Prosecutor's Office, Ohio, 1972-1973
U.S. Magistrate, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Ohio, 1979-1994

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male