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To: oceanview
are you kidding me? the source code for the website. its actually much easier to steal that, then it is to nationalize an oil terminal.

Other than baseless speculation and hyperbole, do you have any reason to believe that India would try to steal the source code from Google? Would it be in their best economic interest to steal intellectual property from the businesses they're worked so hard to court?

Your hysteria is so risible it's almost pointless to comment on it.

138 posted on 10/14/2004 1:38:21 PM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: tdadams

no offense - but you are nuts. not only are there plenty of documented incidents (and probably countless undocumented ones) of intellectual property thefts of US work via offshore conduits (Cisco alone had to battle to stop the Chinese from selling knock offs of their products, right down to the stolen operating system) - but the same offshore locations are one of the main sources of information for identity theft against US citizens (credit cards, personal information databases, etc).

"why would the Indians sell information of the US citizens whose businesses they tried so hard to court"? are you kidding me with that argument. Here's your answer: THEY DID IT FOR THE MONEY. Why did the Chinese rip off Cisco products? THEY DID IT FOR THE MONEY.

Forget it, this is enough of this nonsense for today.


144 posted on 10/14/2004 1:47:08 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: tdadams; oceanview
Other than baseless speculation and hyperbole, do you have any reason to believe that India would try to steal the source code from Google? Would it be in their best economic interest to steal intellectual property from the businesses they're worked so hard to court?

Intellectual Property theft in India exposes risks of outsourcing

Friday, 6 August 2004
Jolly Technologies, a California based software manufacturer, today reported the recent theft of portions of its source code and confidential design documents of one of their key products at their recently opened research and development center in Mumbai, India. According to the report obtained from the Indian branch, Sudha Iyer, a recently hired 25-year-old female software engineer and resident of Jogeshwari, Mumbai, carried out the theft. Iyer used her Yahoo email account, which now allows 100 MB of free storage space, to upload and ship the copied files out of the research facility. Fortunately, Jolly Technologies detected the theft and is trying to prevent Sudha Iyer from further distributing it.

Outsource firm sues in India

In a case that exposes the intellectual-property risks of outsourcing in India, a small San Carlos software company has sued Mumbai police for refusing to investigate the alleged theft of proprietary source code by an employee at its Indian subsidiary.

Sandeep Jolly, the founder and chief executive of Jolly Technologies, said U.S. technology companies should beware of the risks of doing business in his native land at a time when many are taking advantage of the cost savings of offshoring and entrusting sensitive software development and testing work to Indian contractors. Protection of intellectual property is still a new concept for lawmakers, police and prosecutors, he said.

``The law is very weak in India,'' said Jolly, who started his company in 2002 to develop bar-code software. ``Low-level police in India don't really know what a computer is. In our case, instead of helping us they have been harassing us. The authorities have refused to do anything until they are paid a bribe.''


165 posted on 10/14/2004 3:14:57 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: tdadams; oceanview
Other than baseless speculation and hyperbole, do you have any reason to believe that India would try to steal the source code from Google? Would it be in their best economic interest to steal intellectual property from the businesses they're worked so hard to court?

IP laws lax, but US firm bets on India

In July 2002, when the Concorde-based SolidWorks contracted Geometric Software Solutions (GSSL) in India to debug SolidWorks 2001 Plus, little did the company realise that it will soon be in trouble.

Shekhar Verma, a GSSL employee, who was involved with the debugging, resigned from the company after allegedly copying the source code and later, says SolidWorks, began selling it via E-mail to US software companies.

US law enforcement authorities subsequently set up an undercover sting and eventually arrested the employee in a hotel in New Delhi. It's not just teenagers and hackers who are using software illegally. Adults, including some engineers, are doing it too. Outsourcing has brought on its wake a new crime, that of software theft.


166 posted on 10/14/2004 3:17:46 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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