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Of course he won.
1 posted on 10/13/2004 7:34:07 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan

The facts are simple. The very positions Kerry puts forward are contradictory. He says, on the one hand, that he is going to put in place policies to create new jobs. Then he states he is going to increase upper-bracket taxes and increase minimum wage, both of which are job killers.

He makes promises for all sorts of government programs, but, apart from the tax raises on upper brackets, he offers little else in ways to pay for those programs. That "tax cut money" certainly isn't going to pay for everything he is proposing.

No government interference in Kerry's health plan? Bush knocked that one out of the park. It might not be in the plans for the government to have too much influence, but socialized programs lead to rationing, which will ultimately lead to heavy government involvement in health care.

His foreign policy plans are all over the place and are hardly even worth the time it would take to analyze them. It's been done already far better than I could ever hope to do.

John Kerry would be a disaster as president. A Kerry presidency will mean fewer jobs, higher taxes, more government influence in our lives, anti-life litmus tests on federal judges, and a host of other problems Americans simply do not want.

As my tag line says, John Kerry is certainly the wrong candidate for the wrong office at the wrong time.


213 posted on 10/13/2004 8:19:40 PM PDT by MWS (John Kerry- The wrong candidate for the wrong office at the wrong time.)
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As a person who thought Bush lost the first debate I thought he kicked BUTT tonight.
220 posted on 10/13/2004 8:21:29 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Bushworld)
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Of course. The mainstream media will never say so. I'm struck at how relaxed and confident President Bush was tonight. Kerry looked like a guy who was in need of sleep. The visual imagery is more striking than the debate and its good to see the President's advisers told him what looked good on TV. The first debate disaster might have been avoided entirely if the President had just been himself. He was himself tonight and I think when it was all over, every one knew he just won his second term.


228 posted on 10/13/2004 8:24:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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What do the group of people these networks have in a closed room, say? I think it is MSNBC, or CNBC, have undecideds in a room gather and give there thoughts. After the 2nd debate they had GWB winning.


252 posted on 10/13/2004 8:35:58 PM PDT by BQ91
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253 posted on 10/13/2004 8:36:00 PM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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CBS poll shows Kerry with a pretty big win.

I frankly can't fathom that.


269 posted on 10/13/2004 8:48:13 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: ElkGroveDan

VICTORY! I'm still chewing my fingernails to the bone.


271 posted on 10/13/2004 8:49:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Still waiting in vain for a savior to rise from E Street)
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I wish Andrew Mitchell would retire.


272 posted on 10/13/2004 8:50:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Still waiting in vain for a savior to rise from E Street)
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Kerry said he has never seen a party locked out of debates like he has know. When the dems controlled everything a republican was not even allowed to talk.
274 posted on 10/13/2004 8:50:59 PM PDT by Brimack34
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A clear victory for Kerry. I know this because CNN's Bill Schneider told me so.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

275 posted on 10/13/2004 8:51:19 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Halloween gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Cacique

BTW: Here in Washington we have a double header. After the Bush debate we have our Gubernatorial debate between Hillary Clone Chris Gregoire and our guy Dino Rossi.


277 posted on 10/13/2004 8:51:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Still waiting in vain for a savior to rise from E Street)
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THEY KEPT THEIR MEDALS
(SWIFTVETS.COM)

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WHAT IS JOHN KERRY MADE OF?
(SWIFTVETS.COM)

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284 posted on 10/13/2004 9:07:46 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 22 more days until November 2nd.)
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As I said on another thread, I can say how I feel about the debate than Howard Cosell said years ago:

FRAZIER IS DOWN!!! FRAZIER IS DOWN!!! FRAZIER IS DOWN!!!


291 posted on 10/13/2004 9:21:44 PM PDT by Captain Culpepper
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