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To: WestVirginiaRebel

My wife bought me a stand up Kerry punching balloon. The bottom is weighted and it rocks back and forth when I punch it. It just goes back and forth when I hit it ... which is getting to be pretty often.


751 posted on 10/13/2004 6:08:50 PM PDT by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet is NOT Fonda kerry)
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To: clamper1797

This president has turned his back on the wellness of america......


942 posted on 10/13/2004 6:12:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: clamper1797

Bush

"a plan is not a litany of complaints "

nor is proposing something you cannot pay for

"it is bait and switch"

costs 7 grand per family.

can't pay for it.


1,028 posted on 10/13/2004 6:13:38 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

can u keep the pledge not to raise taxes on over 200K incomes?

Kerry: sure, pay as you go (damn, do i wish!!!)

then talks about job losses and declining econ stats and I will reverse that. I show how in every program I will pay for it and we start by rolling back the tax cuts for over 200K per year.

Kerry talks about loopholes expanded. I showed how I was going to do it......
Bush never vetoes one spending bill (TRUE, sadly)


Bush
Kerry rhetoric does not match the record. votes to lift budget caps, links to Kennedy
THERE IS A TAX GAP, and middle class usually pays
requires fiscal sanity

WEAK WEAK answer given his record


1,270 posted on 10/13/2004 6:17:49 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

question on outsourcing

Bush, answer is growing the economy, and he will help with fed programs to retrain. best solution is to make sure educations system works. raise standards and measure early.
education system is best solution. blah blah blah

Kerry's stupid grin is obnoxious, by the way

Kerry's back on last question, one liner on deficits, now talks on inflation of prices (not deficits) and wages going down. claims job training and pell grants and perkins grants and unemployment grants have all been cut (can we do away with the damn things?)


1,421 posted on 10/13/2004 6:21:24 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

is the job creation the responsibility of the president?

Kerry: no, but we make the job creation field fair

shut loophole taxes for rich.
fair trade playing field. didn't stand up for Boeing or to China on currency manipulation (what a STUPID example)

Bush: I throw out money too, so that proves I care.
tax cuts, tax codes pro family. Spending YOUR money, not "gov't" money. His record in US senate does not match rhetoric

Kerry:Anyone can play with these votes. More people get pell grants. "mainstream in american politics and you sit on the left bank. Ted Kennedy is conservative senator from Mass"


1,701 posted on 10/13/2004 6:26:41 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

Is homosexuality a choice?

GOD ALMIGHTY!!! WHO makes these DUMBASS questions?

Bush: I dunno. Civil matters that touch on this belong to the legislatures, not to the judiciary. Marriage is different issue

Friar Kerry: we are all God's children. GAG, PUKE, brings up Cheney's daughter! LOW BLOW.
Not a choice. "be who god made you to be" (God made me a whoremonger, so buddy, I am cutting loose tonight!!! Someone let my wife know for me)

blah blah


1,930 posted on 10/13/2004 6:29:48 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

is it a sin to vote for you?

"right to choose" (screw you Schieffer!)

I respect but disagree.

I won't overturn Roe. He will. I am an alterboy and it makes a difference to me. How nice.

Faith without works is dead (Kerry quotes the Bible). I work because I have faith.

Bush:
Hospitable culture. many differences. we should protect life
partial birth abortions is brutal, bipartisan vote and Kerry voted against it. culture of life, limit abortions, adoptions, maternity group homes, abstinence programs,


2,148 posted on 10/13/2004 6:33:26 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

rising health care costs.

Who is responsible?

fairly good question
Bush:
systemic problem CONSUMERS NOT INVOLVED (BINGO!) no market forces involved. plug for HSA plans. need for tort reform.need for modernization of health care. generic drugs to mkt quicker.

Kerry:
reason is, admin stands in way of importing drugs, medicare negotiate bulk purchasing, (does anyone know about this? email me) health care up b/c people are sicker.

Bush: 20 years in senate with NO RECORD at all of health care legislation

Kerry: I did do stuff, here is the number, and i wrote a bill on this


2,406 posted on 10/13/2004 6:38:30 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: clamper1797

Govt picks up big part of the bill, you say you can pay for it, he says no

Kerry: the newsies say it is true. Not a gov't plan, you choose what you want. I have a better plan. take over medicare kids. states CAN cover (we give em money) to go 300% of poverty. buy into medicare early. give business a 50% tax credit to buy in. uses early detetion of diabetes

Bush
not sure if it credible to quote leading news organizations.
quotes some Lumen??? report. Huge costs. Removes private incentives for insurance. Gov't run health leads to poor quality health, rationing. Basic philosophy difference

Kerry:
attacks on VA?
Bush: I spend money on VA.


2,739 posted on 10/13/2004 6:43:44 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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