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California: Poll: Voters favor softening of '3 strikes' law
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 13 October 2004 | Howard Mintz

Posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Poll: Voters favor softening of '3 strikes' law

By Howard Mintz
Mercury News

With just weeks to go before the election, California voters remain strongly in favor of a ballot measure that would soften the state's tough "three strikes, you're out" law, according to Field Poll results to be released today.

A survey of voters earlier this month found 65 percent support Proposition 66, which would require that a defendant be convicted of a serious or violent felony to qualify for a "three strikes" sentence of 25 years to life. Right now, California is the only state that allows a defendant to be sentenced to those prison terms for a non-violent "third strike" such as petty theft or drug possession.

In another survey, the Field Poll showed voters leaning against Proposition 64, which would place limits on the ability of private citizens to sue companies over unfair business practices.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 3strikes; arnold; felonies; prop64; prop66; proposition64; proposition66; threestrikes
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1 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:26 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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2 posted on 10/13/2004 11:10:50 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("... But the senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The law is insane.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 11:11:42 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Porterville

how so?


4 posted on 10/13/2004 11:12:54 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Like HELL WE DO!

More liberal bias from the Soviet State of Kalifornia


5 posted on 10/13/2004 11:13:11 AM PDT by BurbankErnie (I am an oxymoron - a California Republican)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

If someone has two strikes and is still out commiting crimes even if it is petty theft or pot carrying then I have no tears for em cause they are rather stupid

Well,let's see two strikes,one more and I go away for long time....I think i'll steal a snickers


6 posted on 10/13/2004 11:14:01 AM PDT by skaterboy
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To: MrShoop
If an ex felon defends themselves they can go to jail for life. Ex felons typically live in violent neighborhoods. Felonys can be quite small these day; drunk drivers are felons.

The law is wrong.

7 posted on 10/13/2004 11:17:17 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: BurbankErnie

Do you realize that you are seen as potential inventory for the state of California?


8 posted on 10/13/2004 11:18:13 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: skaterboy
Well,let's see two strikes,one more and I go away for long time....I think i'll steal a snickers

And if there are no witnesses, I won't get caught.

9 posted on 10/13/2004 11:21:16 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: skaterboy
From the voter pamphlet:

Selected felonies no longer considered violent or serious offenses under Proposition 66


10 posted on 10/13/2004 11:21:41 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("... But the senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.")
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To: BurbankErnie
More liberal bias from the Soviet State of Kalifornia

It's amazing that California shifted so quickly to the left. This is the state that put Goldwater over the top in 1964, launched Ronald Reagan on the road to the presidency, and elected a conservative Republican governor (George Deukmejian) as late as 1986.

11 posted on 10/13/2004 11:29:54 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Porterville
Felonys can be quite small these day; drunk drivers are felons.

I don't know of any 'small' felonies. Felony drunk runk driving after two violent felonies......send em away

12 posted on 10/13/2004 11:30:16 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Porterville

If an ex-con defends themself they can go to jail for life? What does that even mean? I'd tranlate to: If an ex-con who has already committed two violent felonies and commits a third crime like buglary, and for some reason turns down free state representation tio represent themselves, has a chance of being convicted, and if convicted wil get life for a third strike. thank god for that.


13 posted on 10/13/2004 11:30:34 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thank you for posting the list of felonies not considered violent or serious. I would have considered voting for this if I hadn't seen what you posted.


14 posted on 10/13/2004 11:31:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Porterville; hchutch; mhking; rdb3; dighton; aculeus; general_re
If an ex felon defends themselves they can go to jail for life. Ex felons typically live in violent neighborhoods. Felonys can be quite small these day; drunk drivers are felons.

Two violent felonies are required to be eligible for the three-strikes law.

As for violent felons having to defend themselves because they live in violent neighborhoods: those neighborhoods are violent because of (drum roll, please):

The violent felons!

15 posted on 10/13/2004 11:33:04 AM PDT by Poohbah (SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER...SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER)
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To: MrShoop

Like I said, you are potential inventory, and you want to push people in line.


16 posted on 10/13/2004 11:33:26 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

for the record, shoplifting a snickers wouldn't qualify as a thrid strike. grabbing one out of a kid's hand could, and should.


17 posted on 10/13/2004 11:33:43 AM PDT by Wayne07
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From the voter pamphlet:

Resentencing of offenders. This measure requires the state to resentence offenders currently serving an indeterminate life sentence under the Three Strikes law if their third strike resulted from a conviction for a nonviolent and nonserious felony offense, as defined by this proposition. Resentencing must occur no later than 180 days after this measure takes effect. The resentencing requirement will result in reduced prison sentences for some inmates and release from prison for others.

18 posted on 10/13/2004 11:34:05 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("... But the senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.")
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You would take away the right of a man to defend themselves? How many people does CA stock behind prison walls in order to support backwater towns without any industry? Think about it. The legal system in CA is a living beast that needs more fuel. Is it any wonder that the strongest lobbyist group in CA is the Prison Guard Union?...
19 posted on 10/13/2004 11:36:53 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Porterville

Please stop misinforming people. Drunk driving is NOT a felony in California.

23152(a) It is a misdemeanor to drive under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs.

23152(b) It is a misdemeanor to drive with .08% or more of alcohol in your blood.

The only time drunk driving can be felony is if you cause injury while drunk driving.

If you think three strikes is so bad, please give us some examples of the most egregious abuse of the law. opponents never do because every time you look at the people's record, you see they really deserved it.


20 posted on 10/13/2004 11:38:24 AM PDT by Wayne07
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