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Beslan families prepare to take revenge
Gazeta.ru ^ | October 12th, 2004 | Vlad Salugardov

Posted on 10/13/2004 10:54:12 AM PDT by struwwelpeter

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The Ossetian Ku-Klux-Klan

Residents of Northern Ossetia are ready to find those responsible for the Beslan tragedy themselves

"I'm not a wild animal, like those who came here to kill our children. I won't avenge myself against families or peoples, but I'm going to find those who made this happen," declared one of the residents of Beslan to Gazeta. During the terror act he lost lost his entire family.

The forty-day mourning period for the victims of the tragedy will end on October 12th, afterwards these Ossetian men, in accordance with the custom of their people, have the right to shave their beards, while the women - remove their black kerchiefs. Many Ossetians say that the organizers of the terror act should be punished, and they promise that if their government will not do this, then the people will go to the extreme. The situation is very serious: in order to understand that deeds follow words in these matters, it suffices to recall the story of Vladikavkaz native Vitaliy Kaloyev: he tracked down the air-traffic controller responsible for a crash, during which Kaloyev's family was killed. He found him in Switzerland and killed him. Not all the residents of Beslan and Vladikavkaz, who our correspondent managed to interview, assert that they intend to kindle the flames of international discord. Meanwhile, an informal organization has been formed in the republic, bearing the expressive name 'Ossetian Ku-Klux-Klan', setting itself the task of punishing corrupt officials and bribe takers.

Each day a man of middle years comes to the half-wrecked building that housed Beslan school number 1. He kneels before a kind of grave in the center of the gymnasium, consisting of a stack of wreaths and toys, and says only one word: Otomshchu (I will avenge). On the 3rd of September this man lost his entire family - his wife and children. When asked, whom he would take vengence upon, the man answers that he has his whole life before him to determine just who. "I'm not a wild animal, like those who came here to kill our children. I won't avenge myself against families or peoples, but I'm going to find those who made this happen. And if the government won't punish these people, then I will," he answers.

This man is far from the only one who thinks this way. The words 'I will avenge' are written in red paint, in giant letters, on one of the remaining walls of the Beslan school, and they express the sentiment of a lot of Ossetians (nearby, someone has glued up a sign with the words in English). It is now obvious to all why Vitaly Kaloyev avenged himself on the air-traffic controller whom he considered responsible for the death of his family. People now have their own reasons to understand what drove him to this. "Perhaps it is our people's misfortune that we've given up the law of blood vengeance, even though we are surrounded by neighbors for whom blood vengeance is immutable," speculated Zalina Dzandarova, a history teacher at the North Ossetian university. "Therefore, these same Ingush peoples perceive our behavior as weakness, because they simply cannot explain otherwise why no one oppresses them, even after Beslan."

Actually, the Ingush who disappeared from Vladikavkaz on the eve of September 1st now live in the city, experiencing no problems. "Who is going to bother them, tell me please?" asks van-taxi driver Akhsar in agitation. He drives the 'Vladikavkaz-Nazran' route. "They are like rats, they run off when danger threatens them. On the 30th and 31st, before the school was seized, by the way, they cleared out of here at the speed of sound, they packed the buses like herrings." Akhsar could not forgive himself, that on those days he did not report his suspicions to the police. "Us drivers, we discussed among ourselves how they were running away, just like back in 1992, but who could know that this nightmare would occur?" he worried.

The question about whom they should take vengeance against, and if it was necessary to attack the Ingush, is now being discussed by everyone in the republic, without exception. Practically all come to the conclussion that to start pogroms would be foolish. "It's obvious that they, who planned the attack, had counted on starting a quarrel, and that the federals would have to step in and pick on us as if we were the nationalist-aggressors, that is, fight the only people in the Caucasus that is devoted to Russia," said the head physician at one of Vladikavkaz hospitals. "So our brotherly neighbors are in complete safety, for now." The Ingush, meanwhile, do not fear pogroms. "We're not going anywhere," said a resident of the village of Balta. "No one will do anything to us. We're also sorry about the children, but they shouldn't have allowed the military in, as the Chechnyans warned them not to, if the Ossetians didn't want to be touched."

Nonetheless, the Beslan events have destroyed the brittle equilibrium which had been in place since the events of 1992, when the Ossetian-Ingush conflict was at its apogee. Now many physicians are refusing to accept patients from the neighboring republic into their hospitals, and people are agitated that Ingushi are attending institutes of higher learning in Vladikavkaz. "If they really sympathize with us, they could at least respect our grief and make it so we didn't have to listen to their language right now," said Beslan resident Ehl'mira Bigulova. Many Beslan residents think that no one but the Ingush could better determine the names of the terrorists, and only in this way could they prove that they do not sympathize with the terrorists.

After the 40 days have elapsed, after the dead hostages have been mourned in Beslan homes, the unavoidable question of taking vengeance on the guilty comes up. "They have rested," thinks one of the visiting journalists, who has been in Beslan since September 1st. "They'll probably do looking for Basayev, and maybe they'll catch him. If they were stuck on a glacier for a year, they wouldn't leave until they found a tunnel out, they would turn the whole world upside down for their children. And they will punish the guilty. Just like Vitaly Kaloyev did." Government officials in Beslan have also been added to the roles of the guilty. After the Beslan events, the 'Ossetian Ku-Klux-Klan' arose in Vladikavkaz, and its members say that they intend to punish bribe-takers and corrupt officials. "If you take bribes, you'll be run around the city in feathers, and all will show you the finger. It is even very useful," one of the members of the organization described their plans to Gazeta. "Our misfortunes are the result of corruption."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beslan; chechnya; kukluxklan; osetia; osetiya; ossetia; russia
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To: struwwelpeter

Those murdering SOB's. May their coming justice be terribly painful.


21 posted on 10/13/2004 11:27:13 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: jocon307
>These people intentionally target and kill unarmed, defenselss children and women. There is no comparison

I didn't compare
the deeds, I compared the thoughts
of the "common man"

of both periods.
Back then, Catholics were seen
like we see Muslims

22 posted on 10/13/2004 11:32:33 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: coydog

23 posted on 10/13/2004 11:36:09 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: t-1000

Another father :-(

24 posted on 10/13/2004 11:39:21 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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Voyevoda time...


25 posted on 10/13/2004 11:41:21 AM PDT by Xphantasos (Ceterum censeo Al-Quaedam delenda est.)
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To: ikka; struwwelpeter
They are like rats, they run off when danger threatens them. On the 30th and 31st, before the school was seized, by the way, they cleared out of here at the speed of sound, they packed the buses like herrings. This is why "moderate Muslims" cannot ever be trusted. The Ingush KNEW that something was going to happen, and they got out of town before it did. Not one of them warned the authorities about the coming attack.

Let's keep an eye on our American Muslim friends. When they run for the border, we'll know something is up.

Re: post 12. Terrible picture. The Ingush should beat feet out of there, before that man comes after them. Those pictures just hurt looking at the anguish on the survivors faces, and the beautiful children that were slaughtered.

26 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:13 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: struwwelpeter

"No one will do anything to us. We're also sorry about the children, but they shouldn't have allowed the military in, as the Chechnyans warned them not to, if the Ossetians didn't want to be touched."

Why is it that Muslims always BLAME the non-Muslim victims instead of attacking their brutal, savage, subhuman, despicable, unfit-to-breathe-the-same-air-as-everyone-else coreligionists???

And why the h#ll should the Ossetians have to follow the demands of a bunch of congential theives and criminals like the Chechnyans???


27 posted on 10/13/2004 1:34:42 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Some lines from Russian underground poet Igor Guberman are probably in order here:
Kogda ehpokhu beredit
Pokoya nudnaya gramatika,
Zemlya nemedlenno rodit
Gibrid ubiytsy i fanatika.

When tedious grammar
Irritates our epoch's peace,
The earth immediately gives birth
To a hybrid of killer and fanatic.


28 posted on 10/13/2004 1:36:28 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: coydog

Thank you for the reference. Amazon.com has a few MP3s to download as a sample. I may pick up the CD.


29 posted on 10/13/2004 1:36:39 PM PDT by ikka
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To: theFIRMbss

Hardly.

The Gunpowder plot was directed at government officials, not little children and innocent civilians. Poor example.

Besides, nearly half a millenium separates the Gunpowder Plot from today and even by 16th Century standards what happened at Breslan was horrific.

I warn you, that unless Islam wakes up from its 6th Century somnolence, the rest of the world will eventually awaken from THEIR somnolence and the mass of humanity will no longer tolerate any more Breslans, Fallujahs, Twin Towers, Madrids, etc, and put a final end to these people - one way or the other.


30 posted on 10/13/2004 1:38:42 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU; Jackie222

31 posted on 10/13/2004 1:47:58 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter
No one will do anything to us. We're also sorry about the children, but they shouldn't have allowed the military in, as the Chechnyans warned them not to, if the Ossetians didn't want to be touched."

Russian Cossaks, from various hostes, are flooding into Ossessia N & S, Abhazia and other areas, spoiling for a fight. The Russian government may not have figured it out, but the people have: Islam is not compatible with Russia. The Volga muslims (many Russian by nationality aka slavic or Tartar) are keeping quiet. They are surround fully by Christians on all sides and have no way of getting islamic help. The Chechins and Inquishy and some Daghistanies all have access to islamic reinforcements, so they cary on. They have forgotten what can happen when the Russian will is taxed to breaking and the Christian soul is rubbed raw and the beast within released.

Chechnya should be a cleared zone in the south (no civilians allowed) with free fire zones and $25k bounties on every Chechin's head. The Russian Cossaks, regular Russians, Ossessians and various Siberians will exterminate what is left up there pretty quick while the terrorists are busy trying to hide and feed themselves with no civilians population to swim in for substanence.

32 posted on 10/13/2004 1:51:52 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: t-1000

"The people of Islam need to ask themselves why is it that they are at war with every religion on the face of the earth? "

The Quran tells them so.


33 posted on 10/13/2004 1:52:41 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: jb6

Cossacks have their uses. I hope they are employed here - in a MOST thorough manner.


34 posted on 10/13/2004 1:56:44 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: t-1000

That was their point. They, the Chechin wing of Al Quida wants to the final war with all others, that they believe Islam is guarenteed to win. Only by starting Raknorg (?sp) can they hope to slay the giants and rule the world. Or so goes their thoughtless process.


35 posted on 10/13/2004 2:14:11 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: t-1000
The people of Islam need to ask themselves why is it that they are at war with every religion on the face of the earth?

Because the devil Allah bid it so and it has been so for 13 centuaries.

36 posted on 10/13/2004 2:14:58 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: struwwelpeter

Ny c dyhom yeyo mozna znat i takzi eyo znat eta eyo lybit.


37 posted on 10/13/2004 2:17:29 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: ZULU
The Tarek host must be resusitated and their ancestral lands, plust some to the south, returned. Time for the fighting Orthodox to return to the lands from which the Islamics once fled.

I have come to the conclusion that Islam is uncompatible with humanity and that there is only one plausable option: the Cross or the Sword for Islam.

38 posted on 10/13/2004 2:26:52 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6
Exactly. I think that most of the world has forgotten that the Russians aren't quite as "delicate" in warfare as the Western world.

The Russians will kill ya. Bottom line. They'll just kill everything.

The defeated German Army prayed that they were taken prisoner by the Americans or Brits because they knew their fate if they were captured by the Russians.

39 posted on 10/13/2004 2:47:17 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
The Russians were still more delicate then the Germans, yes there were several millian civilians who were killed between the Vestul and Berlin but if the Russians had deemed to do to the Germans what the Germans had deemed to do to the Russians, there would be no Germanic settlements east of Berlin or for that matter in Berlin.

Also, in Prague, German soldiers were hung upside down from lap posts and set on fire. The funny thing is, the Russian soldiers took the German surrender but before they could march them off to camps in the rear, an angry crowd of Czecks stormed in, got the Germans and proceeded to make torches out of them.

Also, let us not forget, that there was actually serious debate in the US about exterminating the war loving german in order to have world peace.

40 posted on 10/13/2004 3:13:39 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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