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Election 2004 Reuters/Zogby Daily Tracking Poll: Bush 45% Kerry 45%
Zogby International ^ | October 13, 2004

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:31:00 AM PDT by RWR8189

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To: dead
"Kinda like a fat thirty-year-old guy on the couch, talking about how athletic he was in high school. "

In High School I correctly guessed the number of marbles in the fishtank. I was correct to one-hundreth of one percent. Does that make me an expert like Zogby, too?

21 posted on 10/13/2004 9:46:10 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Guillermo

He did no better than any other major pollster in 2000, and he completely blew the 2002 midterms and the Dem primaries.

He has already come out and basically endorsed Kerry.

What reputation?


22 posted on 10/13/2004 9:47:17 AM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: Merry
"Question would you rather vote for the scarecrow with a heart but without a brain, or the tinman with a brain who doesn't have a heart?"

I think it is an interesting question. It makes you come down on one side or the other, what is more important, emotions or logic. I pick logic. Pretty easy.

23 posted on 10/13/2004 9:47:30 AM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: RWR8189
One thing I've noticed. Immediately after a debate there seems to be a narrowing of the polls but as a few days pass they tend to swing more for Bush. So, let's get this last debate over with and see how things settle out.

Unless Bush comes up with a powerful zinger to Kerry tonight (or heaven forbid he messes up really badly) I don't see any reason to expect that the perceptions after this debate will be any different than for the other two. So let's get this over with!
24 posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:41 AM PDT by rhetorica
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To: RWR8189
These poll numbers are troubling. I realize that Democrats are usually oversampled and that the snapshot should be a little more in the GOP's favor, BUT (and this is a big butt) turnout and overall voter fraud will favor the Dems by a point or two. They aren't going to root out all of the fraud -- and the attempts to do so will be challenged with calls that the GOP is trying to suppress the vote. (These cries should be ignored but they won't be entirely.)

TS

25 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:13 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Random Childhood Memory #4: "You might, rabbit, you might.")
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To: RWR8189

Last night MSNBC ran a segment on polls and their sampling methods. They determined that Zogby samples a fairly large percentage of minorities. This would likely skew the numbers a point or two in the democrats favor.


26 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: Guillermo

What have you done for me lately? Well, Zogby screwed up bigtime in his latest attempts at polling 2002, 2003 and even the 2004 special election between Herseth and Diedrich in SD. He's showing his age and partisanship. I don't trust his polls one iota.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:07 AM PDT by Ravi (Jai Jindal)
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To: RWR8189

I am sick of polls so I am ignoring this thread.


28 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:47 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: af_vet_1981

He blew the offyear elections in 2002.


29 posted on 10/13/2004 9:54:53 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: RWR8189

Few pollsters do well in local/Congressional races.

The last Zogby poll I saw in 2000 was 49-49.


30 posted on 10/13/2004 9:58:20 AM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: rushmom

Someone posted an article here yesterday from 2000. It said Zogby predicted Gore would win FL by 12! So I am very mistrustful of Zogby, and esp. of his state polls. I think he is the only one showing Kerry ahead in NV.


31 posted on 10/13/2004 9:59:38 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: skaterboy
"I'm still trying to find out how he went from 46-45 Bush to 47-44 Kerry back to 45-45 all in three or four days."

I don't understand why people keep saying that. A different sample of people is polled each time. That's how. It's not at all mysterious or surprising. The different samples polled may produce similar or somewhat different results each time.

32 posted on 10/13/2004 10:00:06 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: skaterboy
Please no more Zogby.The guy is a joke

I'm still trying to find out how he went from 46-45 Bush to 47-44 Kerry back to 45-45 all in three or four days

ditto. What has changed for the last few days? President Bush lost big time for last Friday debate according to the MSM!!! This makes no sense.
33 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:53 AM PDT by Toidylop (Anybody needs a stinking "global test" besides Kerry?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

LOL!


34 posted on 10/13/2004 10:03:23 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - NEED SOME WOOD???)
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To: ohioWfan

I am ignoring all replies on this thread too so don't get me started! ; )


35 posted on 10/13/2004 10:08:07 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: RWR8189

Zogby is playing games again.


36 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:43 AM PDT by JennyG
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To: Guillermo

Since "hitting the target" (although he tied with 5 other polling organizations) in 2000, he has completely changed his polling procedures. His 2002 record ranked at the bottom of the pollsters, and this election remains to be seen. But his results in 1996 and 2000 are irrelevent to his current method of polling.


37 posted on 10/13/2004 10:13:40 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke

Like I said earlier, local/congressional races are particularly difficult to predict.

I'm going off of his past record.

I doubt he is going to risk his reputation and company just for a perceived agenda.


38 posted on 10/13/2004 10:19:25 AM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: RWR8189

They may be tied, but President Bush has the big mo because has moved up one point and Kerry has moved down two points. Kerry has to score a knock-out tonight to stay in the race.


39 posted on 10/13/2004 10:26:09 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: RWR8189
Zoby can kiss my patooty.

This is the only poll that counts: Oct. 13
Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Bush 291 Kerry 228
New polls: AZ FL IA KS MI MN NH NJ NY OH OK OR PA RI TX WI
(this one finally has Bush UP in WI by 5%)

40 posted on 10/13/2004 10:27:18 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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