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I think its time we start sticking our noses in other nations elections.
1 posted on 10/12/2004 7:07:47 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

I guess this complies with Kerry's Global test.


2 posted on 10/12/2004 7:12:24 PM PDT by Raquel (Liberals abide by a standard all their own.)
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If a group of Americans did something like this, we would be vilified. This is outrageous. Look at Britain and how badly they've messed up their economy and culture. Maybe they ought to expend that energy and some of that money fixing their own problems.


3 posted on 10/12/2004 7:12:39 PM PDT by pharmamom (Just give the entire Middle East some Zoloft)
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Ya know...I take the bs propaganda from the left and the Euroweenies in stride most times....

But this just plain pisses me off.
5 posted on 10/12/2004 7:15:07 PM PDT by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: Pikamax
I think its time we start sticking our noses in other nations elections.

We're gettin' to be pretty good at holding elections in Arabic. You'd think that English would be a snap.
6 posted on 10/12/2004 7:16:38 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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This deserves the
"I fart in your general direction" response.


7 posted on 10/12/2004 7:17:29 PM PDT by Ludicrous
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They're a little late gettin' involved...

More info here:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240255/posts?page=90#90


8 posted on 10/12/2004 7:19:24 PM PDT by wrbones (Where'd I put my tin foil hat....)
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Why don't we just give everyone in the world (outside the U.S.), like, 1/10th of a citizen vote? The U.N. could monitor the polling places, and life would be good. Look people, the world does have a stake in this election. It's only fair that the U.N., based on it's record of sucksess in solving so many, many of the world's problems, play a key, KEY, role. My dream is that someday a regular guy like Kofi Annan can run for President of the United States of America. Seizures...starting...must...go.........


9 posted on 10/12/2004 7:21:47 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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I cannot wait to hear all the shrieking from the Eurotrash after Bush wins term 2.


10 posted on 10/12/2004 7:21:50 PM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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Anyone out there think obtaining voters' names and addresses for purposes of coercion by a foreigner violates any US or Ohio privacy laws? Naaah. Just more foreign money will pour in to the likes of Moveon, other Dumocrat 527s and George Soros' candy store.


11 posted on 10/12/2004 7:23:14 PM PDT by gpapa (Voice of reason from the left coast)
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Without a doubt, if an American group even hinted at meddling with another country's political system there would be a worldwide explosion of protests (complete with massive rioting, which of course would be America's fault) about the horrible 'imperialistic' arrogance of the evil USA.


12 posted on 10/12/2004 7:24:11 PM PDT by Antonello
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It's worth considering at the outset how counterproductive this might all be, especially if approached undiplomatically.

Well, publishing a call to bribe American voters in a prominent London broadsheet probably doesn't qualify as "diplomatic." And I might point out that it's been tried before. Up to about 1776, as I recall.

13 posted on 10/12/2004 7:27:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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If this didn't have to go back through our postal service.

Think of the fun any Clark County voter who received these could have before returning them to England.

Return to sender. Hey what is that smell?

14 posted on 10/12/2004 7:28:14 PM PDT by badpacifist
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I want to vote for Tony Blair in the next UK election. He's lightyears ahead of all the other pukes that read The Guardian. And let's not forget Jacky Chiracy, how do I vote him out?


15 posted on 10/12/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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Nyah, nyah, those liberal Brits wish they were Americans! Sorry chaps, you're missing out on the greatest party in the world -- the US Presidential elections!


17 posted on 10/12/2004 7:35:07 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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I think its time we start sticking our noses in other nations elections.

I agree.

This so-called "Democratic toolkit" works both ways.

The best way to stop Eurotrash from meddling in our elections is to meddle in theirs first.

If Americans could influence European elections, to the point of defeating some key Socialists over there, then we'd have a more sympathic Europe instead of a hostile one.

What harm could it do, since they started the idea?

19 posted on 10/12/2004 7:37:41 PM PDT by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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Perhaps we should all sign ourselves up for this and send a message to Clark County voters about what the Guardian is trying to do to them. Sign up at: http://guardian.assets.digivault.co.uk/clark_county/


25 posted on 10/12/2004 8:16:21 PM PDT by Laura4Bush
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Foreign harassment of Ohio voters.

26 posted on 10/13/2004 2:59:12 PM PDT by weegee (John Kerry: "I'm Oprah! EVERYONE gets a tax hike!")
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http://www.mediachannel.org/views/dissector/affalert152.shtml

Salon.com Announces Election-Year Initiative With MoveOn, The Guardian and Air America

By Timothy Karr
MediaChannel.org

NEW YORK, March 9, 2004 -- Salon.com announced Tuesday night a series of ambitious election-year initiatives, including the opening of a new Washington D.C. news bureau as well as strategic partnerships with MoveOn.org, The Guardian of London and the new progressive radio network, Air America.

The Website, which bills itself as "the largest independent news organization in the country" will also make the announcement via an email to MoveOn.org's 2-million plus members, MediaChannel has learned from a memo sent on Monday to Salon board members from company editor and founder David Talbot.

"The Web has come of age this campaign season as a political news medium and Salon is well positioned to be a leading player in the election year's round-the-clock news cycle," Talbot states.

Salon claims to have three million readers who visit its Website each month. Of this group, 74,000 are subscribers who pay up to $35 a year for "premium" access to news reports, political columns, cartoons and other editorial features. "We anticipate creating some buzz, and more importantly, new subscription revenue with this publicity offensive," Talbot wrote about this week's announcement in the memo to Salon board members.

In January Salon Media Group secured a $200,000 investment from Wenner Media, publisher of Rolling Stone magazine to collaborate on coverage of the upcoming presidential election. This funding helped set up the Washington Bureau headed by columnist and former Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal.

Blumenthal will spearhead the Website's newest editorial initiatives. "The Bush administration has put enormous political pressure on the press not to probe its radical policies and their consequences," Blumenthal states in the memo. "Salon intends to be fearless."

Blumenthal is a former Washington Post and New Yorker reporter and senior aide to President Clinton; author of "The Clinton Wars" and five other books.

Salon published on Wednesday an inside account of how intelligence was twisted in the rush to the Iraq war. The author of the article, "The New Pentagon Papers," is a retired lieutenant colonel, Karen Kwiatkowski, a Near East specialist, formerly assigned to the Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon.

According to the memo, Salon will publish on Thursday the first of several advance excerpts from "House of Bush, House of Saud," a new book by Craig Unger "that explores the relationship between the two dynasties," according to the memo.

Unger "will expose shocking new details on the flights approved by the Bush White House that carried members of the bin Laden family and other prominent Saudis out of the U.S. to Saudi Arabia after September 11. Salon will publish for the first time the manifest of the passenger list and identify one passenger as a suspected al Qaeda funder who was aware ahead of time of the September 11 attack."

Salon has also agreed to a trans-Atlantic media partnership with The Guardian of London. "Salon and The Guardian will exchange news stories daily to be posted on each others' Web sites," the memo states. The Guardian has 8.5 million monthly Web readers, including 2 million in the U.S.

Salon will also contribute daily to the new progressive radio network, Air America, providing "The Salon Story of the Day." Air America announced on Wednesday that it will begin broadcasting in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and San Francisco markets on March 31. The radio network's on air personalities include political satirist Al Franken, comedienne Janeane Garofalo, hip hop icon Chuck D, radio personality Randi Rhodes, and humorist Sam Seder.

Salon, founded in 1995, has established a solid reputation as a credible journalistic voice on the Web, though as a business it has never been profitable. In recent years, the company has experimented with multiple revenue models. It now focuses on a "Salon Premium" subscription model supplemented by advertising revenues from companies including Visa, American Express, Mercedes-Benz, HBO, and Microsoft.

For the last several years, the company has had to fend off rumors of its demise. Salon reported quarterly net revenues ending December 31, 2003 of $1.3 million, but reported an equivalent net loss. The company's fourth quarter 2003 financial report to the SEC notes that if the Web publication "does not secure additional funds from the issuance of equity securities or instruments that convert into equity securities, Salon may be unable to continue as a going concern and cease operations."

Salon.com has survived thus far in part by attracting cash infusions from wealthy investors, including famed TV producer Norman Lear. Around the same time Wenner Media took a $200,000 stake earlier this year, founder and co-chairman of Adobe Systems John Warnock tipped another $600,000 into the company, enough to keep the Website going at least through the 2004 elections. Warnock is also a Salon board member.

As a part of the election-year expansion Salon will add writers for its political coverage. Edward Jay Epstein, author of numerous books, from "Inquest: The Warren Commission and the Establishment of Truth" to "Dossier: The Secret History of Armand Hammer," will be writing on the September 11 Commission. James K. Galbraith, the Lloyd M. Bentsen Jr. Chair in government-business relations at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin, will become Salon's economics correspondent.

-- Timothy Karr is executive director of MediaChannel.org, which last month launched Media For Democracy 2004 (www.mediafordemocracy.us), a citizens-powered initiative to hold mainstream media to a higher standard of election coverage.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 4:04:32 PM PDT by Tamzee (Make Dan Rather cry (again!)...... become a monthly FR donor!)
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How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."

SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

Links on freerepublic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud

WE MUST FIGHT VOTE FRAUD!


28 posted on 10/14/2004 11:48:31 AM PDT by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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Did the Guardian ever back down on this campaign? I saw a mention on another thread that they did, but no confirmation.

I emailed the Guardian, and they sent me a name of a voter in Clark County Ohio. Sheesh the whole thing seems like it should be illegal. I certainly wouldn't want someone in a foreign country getting MY name from the US voter roles and then instructing me as to how I should vote.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 7:17:20 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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