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Professor must take GCSE to teach in his school
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 12 October, 2004 | Liz Lightfoot

Posted on 10/12/2004 6:07:13 AM PDT by tjwmason

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To: AnAmericanMother
I'm earning my certificate to teach in CA and have to eat dirt daily from "master" teachers.... yeah, it is a drag. I can teach college no problem... but for some reason I am unable to teach high school....

I understand that the reasoning is to put up high barriers of entry to protect the incompetent baby boomers, but that is life.... you do what you must. Get in line.
41 posted on 10/12/2004 11:22:51 AM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Porterville

I guess if I ever go back to school to teach, I'll just have to teach in private schools. I don't suffer fools gladly and I am way too prone to shoot my mouth off -- there is NO way I could sit in a classroom and listen to that drivel without getting in some serious trouble. Life's too short, etc. etc.


42 posted on 10/12/2004 11:47:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Porterville
I don't care if it is the King of France teaching about cowardice, he should have to follow proper protocol.

I absolutely disagree. First off, most people coming from math/science professions would already be taking a pay cut to teach. They are exactly the type of people (knowledgable and familiar with real world applications) that we NEED desperately. To insult them by insisting they sit for hours learning "classroom management" (Don't give tests on Monday mornings. Greet your students personally at the door every day. Blah, Blah, Blah) is counterproductive.

Some very knowledgable people simply cannot break things down effectively to teach children. That could be a problem. But right now, we have teachers teaching kids incorrect "facts".

Get people who at least know the facts into classrooms. We can work on teaching problems in workshops.

43 posted on 10/12/2004 11:49:27 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Porterville
I understand that the reasoning is to put up high barriers of entry to protect the incompetent baby boomers, but that is life.... you do what you must. Get in line.

ROFL!! An ed degree is NO WAY to weed out incompetent people! I have a Bachelor's degree in child development (preschool-very familiar with lesson planning), I was a SAHM for 10 years. I won't say that I could just walk into a classroom and teach (before I started back to school) but I was pretty close. My second Bachelor degree is taking me 3 years and roughly 30k. That's ridiculous!

44 posted on 10/12/2004 11:57:06 AM PDT by Dianna
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I understand that the reasoning is to put up high barriers of entry to protect the incompetent baby boomers, but that is life.... you do what you must. Get in line.

ROFL!! An ed degree is NO WAY to weed out incompetent people! I have a Bachelor's degree in child development (preschool-very familiar with lesson planning), I was a SAHM for 10 years. I won't say that I could just walk into a classroom and teach (before I started back to school) but I was pretty close. My second Bachelor degree is taking me 3 years and roughly 30k. That's ridiculous!

45 posted on 10/12/2004 11:57:29 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna; Porterville
My personal experience has been that anybody with a good, in depth knowledge of a particular discipline CAN teach it, provided he or she has a basic knowledge of English and a modicum of patience.

(For an example of this from an odd source, the This Old House producer said at first he was worried about having non-television tradespeople on camera explaining roofing, plastering, plumbing, etc. because they didn't have "camera experience". But he found it didn't matter - as long as they were reasonably articulate they did well.)

Almost anybody coming from private industry or a communication-intensive career such as law can be presumed to be able to 'splain stuff, since they have earned their living 'splaining to stockholders or judges and juries.

When I started my adjunct professorship, I had about five years of law practice under my belt. I never had a bit of trouble and got good evaluations from my students. And they all got through the course, even the ones who needed some extra help . . . all except for one who just didn't care and wasn't interested in working. But there wasn't much I could do about that.

46 posted on 10/12/2004 1:14:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: MississippiMan

I was being sarcastic, of course.


47 posted on 10/12/2004 2:50:32 PM PDT by T'wit (There is only one form of government -- too much)
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