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To: basil

I tend to agree...My father is British, so our family has many chance to go over to the old 'homeland' on an occasion or two. Every once in a while, I'll come across someone who has to verbalize something about the 'dirty Yanks', but generally speaking, everyone is polite and is glad to have Americans on their side...I have many acquaintance there - some of the most conservative, and God fearing people I know - yet unfortunately, are quite pacifist and hesitate to support us in our endeavour in the middle east. But it's all politics, and we move on to things that are more important in our friendships. If the verbal/physical attacks were as prevalent as described in the article, we would be hearing about this more. I also have several friends and acquaintances that travel and do business in Europe. Every once in a while, they get a brief exchange or could shoulder or two, but in general, they are received politely, and enjoy their stay.


Gathering as much background as I can get without raising any hackles, the impression that I get is that most of the attitudes truly come from an environment and a media that bombards them 24 hrs. a day with ant-American/Jewish sentiment. I guarantee you if we were under the same duress, many of the us would eventually get the same notions. This is why it is critical that there is an overwhelming victory in Iraq and Afghanistan, and hope for a complete turn around and acceptance of the local people to help sink into the heads of the Europeans that we don't have alterior motives. We will never get to that point if we give up and go another direction...I don't think I could handle 4 or 8 years of Kerry going around the world and apologizing and humiliating ourselves....


21 posted on 10/12/2004 6:37:40 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: Maringa
The problem with the upcoming election is that it won't be a fair one. The dark powers will do anything to steal the election for Kerry since he is the most corruptible politician available.

The dead will vote twice on Nov. 2nd.

24 posted on 10/12/2004 7:11:39 AM PDT by i.l.e. (is lurking enough -)
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To: Maringa
Gathering as much background as I can get without raising any hackles, the impression that I get is that most of the attitudes truly come from an environment and a media that bombards them 24 hrs. a day with ant-American/Jewish sentiment. I guarantee you if we were under the same duress, many of the us would eventually get the same notions

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If we think that the news over here is biased it's nothing compared witht the incessant left wing bias of the media in the UK. The BBC attacks Blair from the left and ITN, Channel 4 etc are no better. It's distressing to see but it appears that the Brits, as a whole - there are exceptions viz Madivan, have lost the ability to think for themselves.

31 posted on 10/12/2004 9:22:53 AM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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