[Tax-chick]

Is there maybe a free radio feed?

[Clintonfatigued]

Have you noticed that in the United States, the gun debate is over and gun-rights advocates won?

[Kornev]

I hope someone will be watching and give a live update thread.

[A Jovial Cad]

If Kerry wins, I guarantee you he'll turn the Justice Department loose on the "corrupt gun industry" to sue them a la the litigation "war" against "big tobacco." Since firearms manufacturers don't have near the "deep pockets" or huge ongoing revenue streams that tobacco companies do, most of them will either be forced out of business, or forced into a "settlement" that will preclude them from selling their products to any but Law Enforcement or the military. This is the way liberals "legislate" things that they can't get passed by Congress or the state legislatures these days: they sue their way to the result they want, democracy and the will of the majority of the people be damned.
Speculation? Sure. But given recent history, not that far-fetched, methinks. And another reason why this may be the most critical election in our lifetimes when it comes to holding onto those precious liberties we cherish.

[Unknowing]

These gun-grabbers are really so unreasonable.

[budwiesest]

We'd be better served if the NRA would change it's name to SRA (State's Rifle Association) and fight a battle to get the RKBA in every state constitution. Face it, on the Federal level, the BOR is being gutted while we type.

CFR blasted a big hole in the 1st ammendment, got passed, signed by Bush (under the assumption it'd get killed), and declared constitutional by the supreme court. Whoops!

The Patriot act was passed (not even read by your legislators), signed by Bush, and you can say good-bye to warrantless searches and Fourth ammendment protections in the name of Homeland Security. Whoops again!

Texas buggery laws? Gone, the USSC rules again. Roe vs Wade? Ditto. Not too many things the USSC isn't willing to decide for those pesky little states out there now, is there?

What's been happening lately is that the concept of federalism (where sovereign states, though united, determine their own fate) is losing way to nationalism (where a single entity decides it for them because they are united [by what God only knows]).

No reason to assume the USSC would not do the same to the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Sh*t, federal 'infringements' on guns already exist (just what is a BATFE, or national waiting period, or natiional instant check system?) and yet, they should be the last entity 'infringing' on RKBA as per the 2nd ammendment, given it's clearly explicit language...."the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed".

By pulling the teeth out of the federal leviathan (as intended at this nation's founding during the drafting of the BOR), states could and would be able to protect themselves from the tyranny they have since become victims to, as their several 'balls-less' senators, possessing zero 'statesmenship' whatsoever, have allowed not only a re-growth of dental function, but installed in many cases, fangs instead. And this WILL come back to bite us.

Since the states have failed in their role as a firewall against the usurpation of their own sovereignties, it follows that idividuals must either disobey nationalistic tendencies ("stroke of pen, law of land, kind of cool") themselves or accept them wholsale.

Put me solidly in the column of disobeyance. I'll not adhere to rules from on-high that violate our constitution, nor will I accept laws within my state that deny my God-given right to protect myself or family with deadly force, if need be. I simply refuse to be a victim of crime, whether it be of the local kind, or state and national. The carjacker and anti-2nd ammendment legislator have something in common that they don't share with me: I follow the law.

[Prime Choice]

FYI: Running times on the In-Demand network:

http://www.indemand.com/moviesandevents/viewProductShowtimes.jsp?page_sectionId=2&prodId=20731

[Drammach]

Have you considered that the money you spend on watching this "debate" will be shared with IANSA ?

( It's the largest, most lavishly funded gun-ban organization on the globe and a primary force driving the U.N. gun-ban agenda. )

And everyone that pays to watch is contributing to their funding..

[PointRight]

Results are in (if no one noticed): 68%/32% split both ways:

http://www.thegundebate.com/indexA.html

summary: 68% agreed Wayne won & screw the U.N.